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Hillary Clinton Clinches Democratic Nomination!

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  1. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    From CNN:

    CLINCHED

    Clinton will be first woman nominated by a major party

    (CNN) Hillary Clinton clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Monday, according to CNN's delegate and superdelegate count, and will become the first woman in the 240-year history of the United States to lead the presidential ticket of a major political party.

    A strong showing in Puerto Rico's Democratic primary on Sunday and additional support from superdelegates put Clinton, 68, over the top to become the presumptive nominee. She has secured 1,812 pledged delegates and 572 superdelegates for a total of 2,384 delegates -- one more than needed for the nomination.

    Clinton's delegate count will grow Tuesday when six states, including delegate-rich California and New Jersey, hold contests. Speaking in Long Beach, California, on Monday, Clinton said she was still focused on the states where voters head to the polls Tuesday.

    "We are on the brink of a historic, historic unprecedented moment but we still have work to do, don't we?" she said. "We have six elections tomorrow and are going to fight hard for every single vote, especially right here in California."

    After three decades at the center of American politics as a pioneering -- and deeply controversial -- feminist icon, the victory brings Clinton within reach of finally cracking the "highest, hardest glass ceiling" she lamented eight years ago when she conceded the Democratic race to Barack Obama. The former first lady, senator from New York and secretary of state will officially become the Democratic nominee at next month's convention and will face presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump in a general election battle that is already shaping up as one of the nastiest campaigns in modern U.S. history.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/hillary-clinton-nomination-2016/index.html

    A lot more from the link. I expect Hillary to have a majority of the pledged delegates after tomorrow. We'll see!
     
  2. dback816

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    Is this really something they want at this point?

    You would figure that they should keep the news silent for another 32 hours while California votes, so her voters are more motivated to go cast their ballots.
     
  3. Deckard

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    They don't want this to come out now. The media leaked it. Hillary was asked seven times this evening about it and ignored the question. If anything, the Clinton campaign is really ticked off about CNN (and whoever else may have) and their "count" coming out with this information, in my opinion.

    Look for President Obama to endorse Ms. Clinton soon. Probably in a few days.
     
  4. hooroo

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    Idiocracy finally has happened
     
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    It will be mighty hard to clinch a nomination when she gets indicted for negligence in handling classified information.
     
  7. shastarocket

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    Welcome to the 20th century

    - the rest of the world
     
  8. Dairy Ashford

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    I guess, if you balance out Western Europe nearly gassing and bayoneting itself to death in the first half.
     
  9. pippendagimp

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    didn't sanders already say he won't acknowledge the superdelegate votes and will therefore force a contested convention? it seems he's still hoping she'll be indicted by then
     
  10. glynch

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    Buy "defense" stocks!! Margaret Thatcher light. A great victory for feminism if you are in the 1%.

    This premature declaration of victory sort of smacks of her running away quickly in Nevada and Iowa after two of her great victories. A strong confident candidate would not feel the need to do this.

    Bernie would not have had the establishment declaring it all over so often and so early in the process. The Democratic Party and the DNC by pushing Hillary on folks who are not content and hurting economically might just lead to the formation of a third party which will possibly assure the Nader syndrome for a number of elections till the under 45 crowd can recapture the Democratic Party from the .1 to 10% that are the DLC's Dems real constituency.
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    By
    Douglas E. Schoen

    Mr. Schoen served as a political adviser and pollster for President Bill Clinton, 1994-2000.

    May 31, 2016 6:31 p.m. ET



    There is now more than a theoretical chance that Hillary Clinton may not be the Democratic nominee for president.

    How could that happen, given that her nomination has been considered a sure thing by virtually everyone in the media and in the party itself? Consider the possibilities.

    The inevitability behind Mrs. Clinton’s nomination will be in large measure eviscerated if she loses the June 7 California primary to Bernie Sanders. That could well happen.


    A recent PPIC poll shows Mrs. Clinton with a 2% lead over Mr. Sanders, and a Fox News survey found the same result. Even a narrow win would give him 250 pledged delegates or more—a significant boost. California is clearly trending to Mr. Sanders, and the experience in recent open primaries has been that the Vermont senator tends to underperform in pre-election surveys and over-perform on primary and caucus days, thanks to the participation of new registrants and young voters.

    To this end, data from mid-May show that there were nearly 1.5 million newly registered voters in California since Jan. 1. That includes a 218% increase in Democratic voter registrations compared with the same period in 2012, a strongly encouraging sign for Mr. Sanders.


    A Sanders win in California would powerfully underscore Mrs. Clinton’s weakness as a candidate in the general election. Democratic superdelegates—chosen by the party establishment and overwhelmingly backing Mrs. Clinton, 543-44—would seriously question whether they should continue to stand behind her candidacy.

    There is every reason to believe that at the convention Mr. Sanders will offer a rules change requiring superdelegates to vote for the candidate who won their state’s primary or caucus. A vote on that proposed change would almost certainly occur—and it would function as a referendum on the Clinton candidacy. If Mr. Sanders wins California, Montana and North Dakota on Tuesday and stays competitive in New Jersey, he could well be within 200 pledged delegates of Mrs. Clinton, making a vote in favor of the rules change on superdelegates more likely.

    Another problem: In recent weeks the perception that Mrs. Clinton would be the strongest candidate against Donald Trump has evaporated. The Real Clear Politics polling average has Mrs. Clinton in a statistical tie with Mr. Trump, and recent surveys from ABC News/Washington Post and Fox News show her two and three points behind him, respectively.

    Then there is that other crack in the argument for Mrs. Clinton’s inevitability: Bernie Sanders consistently runs stronger than she does against Mr. Trump nationally, beating him by about 10 points in a number of recent surveys.

    The worries about Mr. Sanders’s strength have stirred the beginnings of a capitulation to him—by the Clinton camp, in league with the Democratic National Committee—at the convention. To placate him, they have already granted Mr. Sanders greater influence over the party platform. Two divisive figures, Cornel West and Rep. Keith Ellison, have been added to the platform committee, ensuring that the party will be pulled further left. In addition to putting Mr. Sanders’s socialist nostrums on display, the platform negotiations are likely to spur an ugly fight over the U.S. relationship with Israel.

    Mrs. Clinton also faces growing legal problems. The State Department inspector general’s recent report on Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was secretary of state made it abundantly clear that she broke rules
    and has been far from forthright in her public statements. The damning findings buttressed concerns within the party that Mrs. Clinton and her aides may not get through the government’s investigation without a finding of culpability somewhere.

    With Mrs. Clinton reportedly soon to be interviewed by the FBI, suggesting that the investigation is winding up, a definitive ruling by the attorney general could be issued before the July 25 Democratic convention in Philadelphia. Given the inspector general’s report, a clean bill of health from the Justice Department is unlikely.

    Finally, with Mrs. Clinton’s negative rating nearly as high as Donald Trump’s, and with voters not trusting her by a ratio of 4 to 1, Democrats face an unnerving possibility. Only a month or two ago, they were relishing the prospect of a chaotic Republican convention, with a floor fight and antiestablishment rebellion in the air. Now the messy, disastrous convention could be their own.

    There are increasing rumblings within the party about how a new candidate could emerge at the convention. John Kerry, the 2004 nominee, is one possibility. But the most likely scenario is that Vice President Joe Biden—who has said that he regrets “every day” his decision not to run—enters the race.

    Where is President Obama in all this? So far he has largely stayed out of the campaign, other than to say that he doesn’t believe Mrs. Clinton compromised national security with her home-brew email server. But with her poll numbers dropping, her legal headaches increasing, the Sanders candidacy showing renewed vigor, and Donald Trump looming as a wrecking ball for the president’s legacy, Mr. Obama and adviser Valerie Jarrett might begin sending signals to the Democratic National Committee and to the vice president that a Biden rescue operation wouldn’t displease the White House.

    All of these remain merely possibilities. But it is easier now than ever to imagine a scenario in which Hillary Clinton—whether by dint of legal or political circumstances—is not the Democratic presidential nominee.Mr. Biden would be cast as the white knight rescuing the party, and the nation, from a possible Trump presidency. To win over Sanders supporters, he would likely choose as his running mate someone like Sen. Elizabeth Warren who is respected by the party’s left wing.
     
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    Disgusting....
     
  12. leroy

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    Who are the VP candidates? Is Julian Castro still considered in the running?
     
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    Be careful, a diet of purely sour grapes can lead to osteoporosis, friend.
     
  14. Haymitch

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    So the Bernie Bros still think they can win?

    God damn. And people called Ron Paul supporters delusional. At least we knew he didn't stand a chance.*

    *Yes, I know Bernie got way closer than Paul ever did, but it's over. It's over.
     
  15. B-Bob

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    She is many things, but she ain't dumb. And you can call her supporters many things, including cynical, hypocritical, deluded or what-have-you, but she's not the dumb pick in the field this year, just based on the evidence. In terms of relevant experience and grasp of policy, she's the most qualified.

    Now, you can go after her policies, her behavior, and her statements, and we should.

    Idiocracy would be nominating someone with no relevant experience or a penchant for saying and doing completely stupid things. (I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone in particular, but just saying idiocracy elected Camacho, and Clinton ain't Camacho in any way, shape or form.)
     
  16. B-Bob

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    Oh dude, they will be chanting this in December. And when they all proudly sit out the 2018 midterms to "punish" the democratic party and groom their beards, they will still talk about how Bernie was robbed. Never mind that none of the reasonable changes they might still want (e.g. eliminating superdelegates, etc, etc) result in Bernie being close to ahead.
     
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    fomer secretary of state colin powell had committed the same misdeed, as did former FBI director John Deutch. neither of them were indicted
     
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    Bernie Sanders, Hilary Clinton, and .... Donald Trump.

    I'm never thrilled about the candidates, but I've never been outright disgusted by all of them. This s**t is embarrassing.
     
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    We knew it was coming. But, really, AP...working overtime canvassing the supers make the call a day early???
     
  20. larsv8

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    Hooray more of the same :(
     
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