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Here's what you should be outraged about......

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by B@ffled, Jan 31, 2020.

  1. B@ffled

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    I hear a lot of folks tossing terms like authoritarian, fascist, socialist, etc.. This document is actual record from a congressional hearing. It's been out there forever, and I've always wondered why we've let this happen. You can check the box on almost all of these items and it kinda fits into one party's doctrine....just sayin'

    I'd love to hear any argument that believes that this is OK. Or if anyone can debunk this, please do so. It's been out there, well since 1963.

    Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 Current Communist Goals
    EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    Thursday, January 10, 1963
    Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
    At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
    CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
    4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
    5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
    6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
    7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
    10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
    12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack. 20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, and policymaking positions.
    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was
    told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting p*rnography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy."
    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for
    intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." (Remember these goals were published to expose them in 1958) Coincidence?
    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man." 31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a
    minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
    32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
    33. Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus. 34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and
    r****ding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["] united force ["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government. 44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
    45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
     
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    I just re-read all 45 and chuckled... But now I'm pi$$ed. Because it ALL materialized. Google it.
     
  3. Major

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    Why would you be pissed? Do you think these are actual communist goals? Do you realize the book was fictional and written by an American author?
     
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  4. Nook

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    Somebody is really ignorant and gullible.
     
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    Boomer's been playing on facebook again.
     
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    I’m assuming you’re relating this to Democrats? Few, if any, apply. Some of the religious things are born out of liberal policy I suppose. But adhering to the establishment clause is vastly important. Just because some communist leaders were atheist doesn’t mean all atheists are communist. I’m a very proud atheist and I would be upset if a public school wanted my future children to pray
     
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    You piss your pants that every news network that isn't Fox but repost uninformed garbage like this from pure-bred segregationists.

    Aaaand, there it is. Maybe just stick to the bouncy-ball, black and tall part of the site, Zed.
     
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    Is it possible you weren't just remembering a lynching or day dreaming about genocide

     
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    You are a parody account right? An alt account?
     
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  10. B@ffled

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    Is it really fake? From the digging I did before I posted it appeared to check out. That this, was submitted before Congress.

    Debunk it is you can because I’ve been living the last 15 years of my life believing this testimony actually happened and I’m willing to tuck tail and laugh with you at myself. Seriously. I’ll do my best to debunk it today unless someone beats me to it.
     
  11. B@ffled

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    I’m B@ffled
     
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    Ah. The race card has been played. How elegant of you.
     
  13. B@ffled

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    Ok. It was entered into congress by a Florida congressman. The author was a right wing nut. It's a real thing but it's source is an American author who appears to be a hard right nut job. A thing to note that Ben Carson supports his view, particularly this document. Not saying that should move anyone's needle.

    My Bad. With my tail tucked, I submit that I've been duped for the last 15 years. I've been B@ffled.

    But where the hell did someone get anything racial out of this? You can call me an idiot for being duped. But seriously WTF?? This makes me a racist? What about Carson? Is he a racist too?
     
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    I was wondering where the next trump supporter safe zone topic was...
     
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    :D I'm ROFLMAO. Totally appropriate
     
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    Ease off the tin foil buddy
     
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    that's pretty funny coming from Mr. "Trump-will-be-dictator-for-life-after-2024" . :p
     
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    LOL...most of these are applicable to the trumpublican party.

    especially the following...
    14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office. ***in the case of trump, it was giving access to top secret intel.***
    16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
    ***trump is on his 3rd marriage and brags about cheating on all his wives.***
    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition.
    ***trump repeatedly calls for violence at his rallies and says he will pay the legal bills of those who commit violent acts.***

    and heres putin after reading #15...Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States
    [​IMG]

    trumpism is a mental disorder. you people are sick and need help.
     
  20. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Coming from the man who spams threads to derail them, your words lack punch.

    Speaking of punch, you love to drink your right-wing kool aid and piss on this board.
     

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