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Harrison Barnes traded to Kings For Jackson/Randolph

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by mikol13, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. H-Town Rockets Guy

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    Very True but why spend 25 million on a player like Harrison Barnes. He is not even an Allstar in this league
     
  2. glimmertwins

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    You are absolutely wrong here. Good free agents aren't coming to the Kings right now so they are doing the sensible thing and trading for a decent younger player to pair with their future star De'Aaron Fox. I'm sure they were looking for Porter, but Barnes is the next best thing for them. They could have all the cap space in the world but difference makers like Durant, Kawhi, Davis, etc are not coming there with their reputation so they are making the smart play to build around Fox with a young core.
     
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    2nding the need to know what this tweet was. It has been deleted.
     
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  4. J.R.

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    It was this. (Basically what Bima said)

     
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    Best they could do I guess
     
  6. mikol13

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  7. donkeypunch

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    Bima had that like 4 hours before. Hes like the JR of capology.
     
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    To be fair, this is the same face he used when giving his vows at his wedding.
     
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    They are definitely tanking, but have way too much ground to make up.
     
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    http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/25941862/trade-grades-next-mavs-kings-barnes-deal

    Trade grades: What's next for Mavs, Kings after Barnes deal?

    The deal

    Kings get: Harrison Barnes
    Mavericks get: Justin Jackson and Zach Randolph

    Sacramento Kings: C-

    For months now, plugged-in reporters have continued to indicate the Kings were in pursuit of a small forward with size to go with their smallish wing duo of Bogdan Bogdanovic and Buddy Hield, both shooting guards by trade. In Barnes, they get their guy and ostensibly an ideal fit with a young core that has exceeded expectations so far this season. Look closer, however, and I'm not sure this deal will prove a difference-maker.

    On the surface, Barnes had a productive run of two-plus years with the Mavericks after signing a max deal as a restricted free agent in the summer of 2016. Playing a larger role than he did as part of the Golden State Warriors' first championship team, Barnes averaged about 19 points per game his first two seasons and slipped this season only because his minutes went down slightly. (Barnes is still averaging 19.8 points per 36 minutes, identical to 2017-18.)

    Issue one is that Barnes has been more of a volume scorer in Dallas with below-average efficiency. His true shooting percentage has hovered around .540 when league average is .558. This season's improvement to 39 percent 3-point shooting, which could have improved Barnes' efficiency, has been offset by his 2-point percentage tumbling from 48 percent to 42 percent.

    I'm not as worried about that in Sacramento, which is getting plenty of shot creation from its backcourt (also including point guard De'Aaron Fox). Inevitably, Barnes' usage rate will go down from the 23.5 percent of Dallas' plays he was finishing with either a shot attempt, trip to the free throw line or turnover this season. After all, the player he's replacing in the Kings' starting five (Iman Shumpert, dealt to the Houston Rockets earlier in the evening) had a 15 percent usage rate in Sacramento. In a smaller role, Barnes should return to something closer to the above-average efficiency he showed as a scorer with the Warriors.

    The bigger concern is Barnes just doesn't do much else besides score. He has handed out just 1.4 assists per 36 minutes this season, fifth-lowest among players averaging at least 18 points per 36, according to Basketball-Reference.com. Barnes is also near the bottom of the league in combined steals (0.8) and blocks (0.3) per 36 minutes.

    That lack of production is reflected in Dallas' performance with Barnes on and off the court. Though Barnes had a positive net rating in 2016-17, when the Mavericks were 2.2 points per 100 possessions better when he played, according to NBA Advanced Stats, that hasn't been the case the past two seasons. In 2017-18, Dallas was 9.0 points per 100 possessions worse with Barnes on the court. This season, that figure is 7.5 points per 100 possessions worse with Barnes. As a result, ESPN's real plus-minus (RPM) rates Barnes as a below-average contributor.

    Don't get me wrong: The Kings likely improved with this trade. Barnes still rates better by single-year RPM than Shumpert, although Shumpert's multi-season rating is slightly better. With the LA Clippers trading starter Tobias Harris to the Philadelphia 76ers on Wednesday, the door is open for Sacramento to make the playoffs for the first time since 2006.

    The issue here is alternative cost. To make this trade, the Kings utilized more than $10 million in remaining cap space this season and will forego $25.1 million this summer, assuming Barnes picks up his player option. If Sacramento was going to use that on a win-now move, and include Jackson, I think they could have done better than Barnes.

    If Otto Porter Jr. were available for the same return before being dealt to the Chicago Bulls in a separate move Wednesday -- and on paper, the Kings' offer looks better from the Washington Wizards' perspective -- I would have preferred Porter despite his larger, longer contract. Porter has a longer track record of helping his team play better when he's on the court.

    Sacramento found its big wing with the Barnes trade. I'm just not convinced they found the right one.

    Dallas Mavericks: A

    This season's downtick in Barnes' usage rate was probably only the beginning. Rookie of the Year frontrunner Luka Doncic had replaced Barnes as the Mavericks' primary shot creator this season, and a healthy Kristaps Porzingis also figured to slot ahead of Barnes in the pecking order in 2019-20. As a secondary option, Barnes is both overpaid and limited in his contributions elsewhere, so it made sense for Dallas to move on from him.

    The Mavericks are now in the interesting position of replacing the Kings as the only option for any team looking to shed significant salary between now and the NBA draft. Having taken back less salary in both this trade and last week's deal for Porzingis, Dallas is now $13.1 million below the cap. Alternatively, the Mavericks could create a $21.3 million trade exception from this deal by taking Randolph's salary into the trade exception created last week in the Porzingis trade.

    Either way, Dallas can use the ability to take on salary to recoup some of the draft picks sent to New York for Porzingis. Already, they got a useful young player in Jackson, who has made progress as an outside shooter in his second season. After hitting just 31 percent of his 3-pointers as a rookie, Jackson is up to nearly league average this season. His ceiling is low but continued development as a shooter could make Jackson a low-cost contributor off the bench.

    The big benefit for the Mavericks will come this summer, when they could have somewhere in the neighborhood of $30 million in cap space if they send their first-round pick to the Atlanta Hawks via the Doncic trade and waive forward Ryan Broekhoff, whose salary is non-guaranteed. Dallas isn't realistically a player for the top free agents on the market, but it may be able to set the market on available centers, a group that includes All-Star Nikola Vucevic and DeMarcus Cousins.

    Whatever way the Mavericks end up using the money, odds are it will be on a better player than Barnes. Add that to Jackson and the cap flexibility the rest of this season and this looks like a great trade for Dallas.
     
  13. YallMean

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    Is Doncic that good? He is the white Harden, right. I still think he may be a burst in a few years.
     
  14. farhen

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    lol it's funny they couldn't wait at the end of the game to trade him
     
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  15. YallMean

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    About this play v organization argument ... a bit illogical if you come to think of organization always wants to keep players that are good for them, but players not necessarily so. That's the difference. No one is pointing finger at AD blaming him to demand a trade.
     
  16. UTAllTheWay

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    How is it better for Harrison Barnes if they wait until after the game to trade him?

    He could get hurt playing for a team that was going to trade him anyways... then all of a sudden the team would look selfish again.
     
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    Just watch him play. Doncic is no Harden, but he sure is by far the most valuable young player in the league today.
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    The State of Texas can only have 1 nouveau-riche billionaire loudmouth NBA team owner on top at any one time. Cuban is making his move up the ladder.
     
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    Not when his team has more losses than wins. Nice try, though. SMH.
     
  20. Koperboy

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    You obviously don't watch any Dallas games. DSJ/Luka/Wes/Barnes/DJ was the worst starting 5 in whole NBA. Luka was the only one of that group with a positive net rating. Almost anyone else who played with Luka had a positive net rating except those four starters.

    Barnes acclimated well to not being the man anymore, but he still had boneheaded plays almost every game, doesn't pass, turns it over too much for a player who doesn't handle the ball and doesn't defend as well as he once did.

    Tim Hardaway JR and Courtney Lee are adequate substitutes for his play.
     
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