Harden is still a top 5 nba player

Haha, Haren admits he's a scrub on defense and continues the nonsense but apologists can't see it. I just showed you someone who agrees with me, and it's the no D playing scrub himself.

I guess because your stat-loving analytics friends put too much weight on the steals/rebounds/blocks variables, you think he's "above-average" lol.

"Above average, solid defender James Harden. Who was great at D all year." What a joke.

 

Nah, its just that players of Harden's calibre are hard as **** to come by and we shouldn't throw it all away over a couple bad performances. If you don't think Harden was a worthy MVP candidate, that are 55 wins weren't impressive, and that we should move in a different direction I disagree with you.

Tonight he was awful, one of the worst games I've ever seen in all my years of watching basketball. But that doesn't change my opinion on his entire impressive body of work this season.

 

Never said it was your point, I was talking about my point.

 

$20 millions a year will do it, Say Ryan Anderson, "I ain't going to play D either, so who cares? LOL"

 

Depends what you can get for him and what your expectations are for the team.

If your expectations are a championship, I think it would be wise to exercise the option of getting rid of him, as I don't know how well he would co-exist with another ball-dominant superstar.

What do you think?

And defending my position in a disagreement is "bullying" because I'm winning? Sorry for not being delusional about Harden's defense...

 

Durant know whats what. Got away from Harden and WB

 

They voted him MVP though, that's more than lip service.

As for Durant, that's not even fair. It was to become a super team and play with Curry, Draymond, Klay...or go to Houston and play with Harden and....who else? No one had this team being the 3rd seed in the west.

 

And went to a winning franchise that focused on team play in the process. Smart man indeed.

 

Build around him? Who the F would want to come play with him after what we just witnessed at the end of Game 5 and all of 6? I just think all the good will and momentum he helped build over the year was thrown out the window. We're back to post Dwight James having to prove himself again. In the words of Dubya, fool me once shame on me, fool me twice, you don't get fooled again

 

I don't think Morey is the person to make this happen either... he does not have any concern for anything that does not come out of his solid-state drives.

NBA history is waaaaaaaay more full of guys who were always gritty competitors continually getting it done too. I don't get the idea of using outliers to set policy.

 

You're bullying me.

 

His team finished better than how many teams in the NBA?

Don't undersell this team. Butler and the Bulls sitting at home. Hayward was just swept by the Warriors. Milsap has to deal with Howard. Paul George's team was punked by the Cavs. All these players would be improving their situation coming here, no?

 

Top 5 regular season player. Do something when it matters

 

All-stars can earn $20mm anywhere. Why put themselves in a situation where they have to cover for someone defensively?

Also, we acquired for Anderson b/c we specifically wanted a stretch 4.

 

Yup. Durant and Lebron know what's what.

LBJ knew he couldn't win with that crap team in Cleveland, left for Heats.
He knew Wade and Bosh were done, left for Da Land and demanded better players and got them
KD knew he wasn't going to win with WB or joining Harden(again).

The great players ain't dumb. They want to win. They will scream at their teammates if they don't give effort. Look at Lebron yelling at everyone.

KD yelled at Curry in the Jazz game when Curry blame a Defensive assignment. Greatness demand greatness.

 

James Harden is the best offensive player in the entire league. He led the league in WAR. He lead the league in points created from himself + assists. He deserved MVP, flaws and all.

5 terrible, terrible quarters + an overtime shouldn't destroy a narrative that was successfully established over 91 games.