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Hakeem at 31 is better than any Rocket now at any age til the end of time

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Jan 12, 2018.

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Hakeem at 31 is better than

  1. Harden at 28

    31 vote(s)
    35.2%

  2. Zhou Qi at 28

    13 vote(s)
    14.8%

  3. Max Kellerman at 28

    24 vote(s)
    27.3%

  4. Parents of Clutchfans who forgot to teach their kids about the 90s at 28

    20 vote(s)
    22.7%
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  1. BigDog63

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    Oh, I'm not. Harden is great...I also laugh at all those who discount him for MVP, or saying he isn't amongst the best players currently.

    BUT, Hakeem is an all time great. The discussion on Harden is where does he place amongst the best players currently. The discussion on Hakeem is where does he place amongst the best players EVER. So, 2 different animals indeed. Hakeem did things no other human on planet earth has ever done. , or likely will ever do. What does Harden do that no other player has ever done, or will ever do?

    It's the Mount Rushmore discussion. Saying someone may not belong there isn't a dis, it's recognition of the extremely rarified air that that is.
     
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    Look, Hakeem is the most decorated and beloved Rocket of all time and rightfully so.

    That said, why do people always try to pit our own against each other? Why can we not enjoy the Harden era and appreciate it for what it is? We are witnessing some damn good ball.
     
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    That series dantoni just got outcoached. It wasn’t about talent.
     
    #143 rockets13champs, Feb 13, 2018
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    secretely think Tinman is only 21
     
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  5. tinman

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    I don't care about how many times Hakeem jacks up 3 pointers, I only care about the banners and glory he brings to the Rockets.

    Harden is not a decent defender, a decent defender makes first or second team all defense.
     
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  6. tinman

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    Then if D'Antoni got outreached , then how is this team going to win a championship and how is Harden going to get Finals MVP?

    You got to make it to the Finals first.
     
    #146 tinman, Feb 13, 2018
  7. J.R.

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    Hakeem at 55 >>>

     
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  8. tinman

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    And he’s rocking Tupac
     
    #148 tinman, May 5, 2018
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    If Harden propels the Rockets over GSW and gets his ring then I would personally place Hakeen and the Beard at 1a/1b.
     
    #149 tmacfor35, May 5, 2018
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    J.R., is made me so sad I'm watching right now...
     
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    I just don't understand how his footwork is so incredible. It's seriously the most graceful thing I've ever seen.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    I don’t even want to do this...

    He has to match all of Hakeem’s individual/team awards to pass him?? That’s ridiculous! He has to rack up a good amount of his own individual/team awards, but he doesn’t have to match them. That’s such a simple, stupid argument.

    Hakeem is still the greatest Rocket ever. But if Harden gets a ring, he’ll be on his way to passing him.

    I get so tired of arguing with old timers that don’t understand how much better players are today than they were in the 90’s.
     
    #153 JMAD21, May 5, 2018
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    There are only 10 decent defenders in the NBA?

    Retire tinman! You ****ing dead brained moron!
     
    #154 JMAD21, May 5, 2018
  15. tinman

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    the 90s were a tougher time with tougher players

    the new generation never cares about defense

    or good rap music
     
    #155 tinman, May 5, 2018
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    Harden will never win Defense Player of the Year. I'm sure of this.
     
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    Thanks for this post, it shows that the greatest Rocket is PURE
     
    #157 tinman, May 5, 2018
  18. JMAD21

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    This is simply not true! Defenses are far more complex now than they were in the 90’s. You were barely allowed to double team in the 90’s due to the illegal defense rules. Players just took more cheap shots. And other than the cheap shots, it wasn’t THAT physical. Overall, the defense wasn’t that good... The offense was just simple.
     
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    You’re right... And Hakeem never lead the league in scoring.

    Neither fact proves either guy is better than the other.
     
    #159 JMAD21, May 5, 2018
  20. tinman

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    They changed the rules cause the league wanted more offense and make it a more guard friendly league

    Cause guards sell shoes
     
    #160 tinman, May 5, 2018
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