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Grant Napear fired

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 2, 2020.

  1. Doctor Robert

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    It's f***ing Wikipedia, not Nazi propaganda. And of course you should question what you read. However, I think you're confusing your blind hatred of "media" with a crowd-sourced encyclopedia. You're welcome to cross check the sources... there are 343 for the Black Lives Matter article and 28 for All Lives Matter. They're conveniently listed near the bottom of each article. You can also click the "related changes" link to review modifications to the article.

    I claimed that Black Lives Matter was an organization and a movement... do you dispute that? I also claimed that All Lives Matter was a conservative criticism of Black Lives Matter. That can be argued as it's been used by different people for different reasons, but I challenge you to find a better summary of the two things than Wikipedia.

    To respond specifically to your post - How does saying "Black Lives Matter" mean "No Lives Matter Except Black Lives" to you? It just so happens that our country has a specific problem with police and citizens killing innocent blacks, so a group called Black Lives Matter was formed to attempt to fix that specific problem.

    Do you also argue that MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) is insensitive because it's not called "Everyone Against Irresponsible Behavior While Operating Heavy Equipment"? I'm sure there are plenty of construction workers injured from work accidents that need an advocate. Do those tradesman not matter too??? Oh wait, they have OSHA, the National Council for Occupational Safety and Health, labor unions, worker's rights organizations, worker protection non-profits... all so exclusive and "poorly named".

    The country also has a lot of other problems. This particular one happens to be hundreds of years old, and a crisis right now... particularly for those people that are being killed.
     
  2. Doctor Robert

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    Why does it always boil down to trolling? Are you really interested in having a conversation at all?
     
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  3. rocketchamp

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    If they did police wouldn't be able to kill unarmed, innocent black ppl with impunity. Get it now?

    Congrats on your faith. Have you ever protested on behalf racial injustice?
     
  4. STR8Thugg

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    This is the definition of ignorance. Black people are not the only group persecuted.
     
  5. sealclubber1016

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    I really wish whenever BLM started somebody would have just added a too at the end, or an also.

    It would have at least forced the closet racists to be a little more creative
     
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  6. STR8Thugg

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    Don't know this dudes background and it sounds like he's a clown from what I've read. However, the ridiculous outrage from people on social media if you don't tow the company line is beyond nauseating. It's downright terrifying. It's fascism and communism exemplified. This groupthink culture we live does not help us progress and move forward. It is okay to have a dissenting opinion. Sure, there are plenty of people that are racist and hold ideas perpetrated in a movie like Django Unchained, but in the United States of America we have the right to express our opinions. That doesn't mean it comes without consequence, but the persecution of free speech is almost as unsettling as the persecution of minorities.

    That being said, George Floyd's death was absolutely terrible and completely preventable. There are very few people on the face of the earth that would disagree about that. That unification of belief is in itself a promising reaction. I want to try to stay positive, so I still aim to look at the positive reactions. However, 2020 has taken a lot from me. It's been the most f*cked year I can remember and it's only June. If the point of all this is to "have a conversation, listen, learn, and educate," then I believe that process works in all ways. It's not just the driven narrative you see on the nightly news.

    *waiting to get flamed for my "ignorant" opinion*
     
  7. eliefor3

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    if all lives matter, then please explain to me why we repeatedly turn down refugees when we are a country that was built on people seeking refuge. Why we celebrate columbus day and have shunned Native Americans aside even though we completely jacked land from them, why there are thousands of people knocking on America's door from Latin America but we not only shut them down but want to build a wall to make sure they cant be let in. Please tell me why no one gave a damn about "ALL" lives matter until it became a counterpoint to a group of people trying to declare that they are tired of being unequals. You really think that by saying black lives matter they are saying everyone else must die but black people?????? You dont think that if they had come up with another name that they would not have come up with a counter to that?

    we as a society dont care one bit about ALL lives mattering, especially the majority of the people that keep insisting ALL lives matter. What actions do they take really to ensure all lives (as in lives besides theirs and the people that look like them) matter?
     
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    I didn't even know All Lives Matter was a racist response till I heard this dude got fired. Good thing I didn't say this at work or I would have been fired and labeled a racist without even knowing it's a KKK or PTOUS saying
     
  9. TilmanFinancialWindfall

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    That's racist! How dare you say All Lives matter.

    but good point about the Natives. How come no one is speaking up for the Natives?

    They had everything taken away and massacre and all they got was lands in the desert and ability to open casino

    The Natives got screwed more than any other race, including the indenture Irish servant and the Mafia Italian. But they still celebrate Columbus day. Celebrating Columbus day is the same is as celebrating Jefferson Davis day
     
  10. Doctor Robert

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    There is nothing wrong with not knowing... intentions mean everything. I'm pretty sure they think Napear did it as a big FU, and that he's been that way for a long time.
     
  11. BigDog63

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    Was he the same guy who said Harden and the Rockets were ruining basketball, when his cohost had to remind him that the team playing that way was up by 37?
     
  12. Reeko

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    I think that was a Clippers announcer
     
  13. B-Bob

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    No flame from me at all, and I'm a lefty. I'd just offer two things.
    1. Fascism and communism are very different, but I know what you mean about heavily controlled societies in each case.
    2. We do absolutely have the right to share our opinions. But that right only means we can't be put in jail for expressing those opinions. It does not mean we can't get flamed on Twitter, lose a job, become a meme, suffer a divorce, etc, based on our opinions. :) In that way, the modern era is pretty scary.
     
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  14. BigDog63

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    Ya, I think you're right.
     

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