Grading Luhnow

Please explain how Foltynewicz has "looked good". He has had 1 great start, 1 good start and 1 poor start this year. Last year his ERA was 5.71 and his WHIP over 1.6. Granted, he may turn into something special, but 1 great start means nothing.

Considering you say Hader looks like Chris Sale, how has Hader done in the majors? Again, he may be something special, but until he achieves success in the major league, his minor league stats don't matter.

Ruiz currently has an OPS of .721 and has struck out in about 25% of his plate appearances. Of course, he did have that spectacular .649 OPS last season.

Got a long way to go before these trades can be properly 'graded'.

 

I give him around a B- . I thought that last year and I think it again this year . He's on his second manager and has been here for 5 years . He gets credit along with Ed wade for rebuilding the worst farm system in baseball from like 2007-2009 .

His strategy is certainly unique and not without risk . We really really tanked from 2012-2014 . Getting the number one pick 3 years in a row with the new draft rules gave our farm system a huge advantage . That 2012 draft looked pretty good then and still does now . An often forgotten fact was that for that draft Lunhow still had former Ed wade scouting director Bobby heck on his staff . He replaced him with Elias after that year .

I give him credit for finding prospects , but when you trade all of your MLB value for a few years straight ( Ed wade did too ) and pick number one overall with a huge $ advantage it would have been a massive failure not to have one of the best farm systems in baseball .

As expectations increase and focus shifts more to the ML level it will be interesting to see how his trades pan out . Regardless of whether or not the prospects we give up amount to anything ... They do have value at the time of the trade . He will need to accuire productive players for giving up this future value .

We are in a pretty good position going forward with our young talent , but there are legitimate questions about our pitching if kuechel cannot regain his form . Our stock of high upside arms has been affected by the recent prospect for MLB players trades .

I think that his grade will change one way quite drastically as this season goes on and during next year / the offseason . Frankly we need to compete . You can't tank for like 4 years and then not have the makings of a dynasty to show for it . Also if it turns out that hinch is not a good manager how many more choices should lunhow get ?

So TLDR ... B-

 

I know I'm not the only one that remembers JD Martinez being generally terrible while he was here. Luhnow did not give away a start major leaguer. He let go what appeared to be a below average AAAA player. What he became in Detroit was as much a surprise to the Tigers as it was the Astros.

 

Grade: B+

 

What he said. And add to it that, it *seems* like he would've never turned into the player he became had he not been released / reworked everything. Sometimes it takes adversity to succeed.

And what bobrek said as well. Folty has shown very little thus far in many opportunities...recency bias all over that one. Ruiz has shown nothing..no idea where you pulled that statement from.

Santana has upside? Maybe so, but if he was still in Houston and doing what he's been doing, we'd be saying "he's done improving--we've already given him a bunch of chances".

If these are the 5 worst non-draft moves he's made--with prospects TBD--I'm pretty happy right now.

 

Grade - A+

Built the farm from the ground up ...and likely wins it all last year if we could have gotten past KC. (and we had our foot on their throat twice)
Way ahead of schedule ...will be a true contender (if healthy probably winning multiple WS) for years...including this one.
He did the same thing in St. Louis, folks. Easily, top 3 in MLB as far as I'm concerned.

 

No Cosart trade? So far, it appears the trade has yielded similar MLB value (i.e. not much) to both sides, but Astros still have Moran, Martes, and Cameron from it.

 

we'll see. I'll give it to you if Folty really pans out. Any links to the fundamental changes he's made?

Ruiz had a 91 wrC+ in AA. Let's see if this pans out for a whole season. Regardless, his K rate is up to 27% and is ISO is down at .109. That doesn't point to a productive future hitter IMO. I don't see it

Even now Santana isn't that useful. He's been fairly crappy this year, in fact. There's no way we could have been giving him consistent PT to see what we had on this team while trying to win. (At least with Gomez, there's a known past that we're hoping to get back to...as unlikely as it seems)

I'll definitely give you Villar.

 

Norris for Hader, Hoes, and Fisher depends totally on Hader and Fisher's prospect status....yet, Moran, Martes, and Cameron are higher rated prospects overall even if the small sample size so far knocks them down a peg. Marisnick and Kike are basically even in fWAR. Astros could end up losing this trade, but odds are right now that this is a bigger win for the Astros than 2,3, and 5 bad trades are losses.

 

having the number 1 pick THREE YEARS in a row sure doesnt hurt. He should be graded based on the trades hes made, and they have been awful

 

B

Bad trades for MLB talent, particularly the Gomez/Fiers trade. Also the Giles trade, although I think Giles will become an elite closer in time.

The Cosart trade was a really good one and I didn't like the Villar trade.

He has done a really good job in the draft I think that Bregman will be a star level player and a future with Altuve/Springer/Bregman/Correa/White/ is a bright one.

If a TOR Hamels (Under contract for a few yrs) type pitcher comes available I would give up Martes/Paulino Fisher/Reed to get him.

 

checking in on Folty's fundamental changes

 

huh? He's going to become an elite closer, is cheap as hell and club-controlled for years, and yet it's still a bad trade for a team that's trying to win soon and had a surplus in the minors?

If Giles sucks, then fine.. but if you're stipulating that he's not just good, but "elite"...i don't understand what you're saying

 

Serious question...

Poor year last year. 4 starts this year - bad, good, great, bad

What is it that makes you think he's 'turned the corner'?