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GOP lawmakers tout projects in the stimulus bill they opposed

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  1. adoo

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    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/62181.html

    WASHINGTON — Rep. John Mica was gushing after the House of Representatives voted Friday to pass the big stimulus plan.

    "I applaud President Obama's recognition that high-speed rail should be part of America's future," the Florida Republican beamed in a press release. Yet Mica had just joined every other GOP House member in voting against the $787.2 billion economic recovery plan. Republicans echoed their party line over and over during the debate: "This bill is loaded with wasteful deficit spending on the majority's favorite government programs," as Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., put it.

    But Mica the lone Republican in touting the bill's virtues. Rep. Don Young, R-Alaska, also had nice things to say in a press release. Young boasted that he "won a victory for the Alaska Native contracting program and other Alaska small business owners last night in H.R. 1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act." One provision would have made it harder for minority businesses to win contracts, and Young explained that he "worked with members on the other side of the aisle to make the case for these programs, and was able to get the provision pulled from the bill."

    Yet later in the day Young — who recently told McClatchy that he would've included earmarks, or local projects, in the bill if it had been permitted — issued another statement blasting the overall measure."This bill was not a stimulus bill. It was a vehicle for pet projects, and that's wrong," he protested.

    That was more in line with the Republican message. Young wouldn't return a request for comment on the apparent contradiction of his press releases. Mike Steel, a spokesman for House GOP Leader John Boehner of Ohio, at first ducked when asked about Mica and Young issuing press releases praising the bill they'd opposed.

    "I don't work for Mica or Young," Steel said initially.

    But then he explained that what Mica and Young did in touting aspects of the bill was in fact consistent with the Republican message. "Being supportive of one portion of a trillion dollar bill, but voting against the entire trillion dollar bill, is perfectly reasonable," Steel said.

    Mica is the top Republican on the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, and a longtime backer of high-speed rail. GOP committee spokesman Justin Harclerode explained that Mica saw the bill's $8 billion for rail as a "silver lining," and "he's encouraged others are supporting high speed rail too."

    But nowhere in the Young or Mica statements was any mention that they opposed the bill.

    Harclerode wasn't sure why Mica didn't mention his opposition. "It's not really secret," he said. "I guess it just wasn't the focus."
     
  2. Northside Storm

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    remember kids, pork is bad unless it's feeding your family...

    I just never thought GOP members would be so overt and stupid about it.
     
  3. fmullegun

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    his party forced him to vote against it. what do you want, he has to get reelected some how.
     
  4. Northside Storm

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    seriously though, really? i'm hoping this doesn't escape SOME people. you would've thought that the GOP would be smart enough to say "well, guys, come on we just voted against that bill, kindly STFU about it for at least the next month or so"
     
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    Shouldn't he have waited until after he gets reelected before showing his cards? How does it help him to vote against it, and then spill the beans before the ink is dry?
     
  7. rimrocker

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    There are a lot of Repubs doing this or planning to do this in the next few days.
     
  8. weslinder

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    They'd tell you that they supported said project, but not a $800 BB cluster.

    (Not defending, just giving the plausible spin.)
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    Exactly what's been wrong with Republicans. They only say they are against government waste.

    The voters suck too, because they claim to hate pork and big government, then vote for this stuff.
     
  10. glynch

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    Sort of reminds me of when McCain and Cornyn tried big time to avoid increasing veterans benefits and then went around proclaiming how they voted for them.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    kind of reminds me of how kerry was for the war before he was against it.

    it kinda reminds me of when tmac was gonna play then he didnt.

    it kinda reminds me of when steve was going to really come back and didnt.
     
  12. Deckard

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    Nice post, adoo... much ado(o) about something! ;)
    Great use of the different font, as well. Something rarely seen in D&D. Post more!
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    The font in this thread is incredible.
     
  14. fredred

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    He is responsible to his constituents and his constituents only. If we are at the point where a few people in charge of the GOP or DNC can so easily dictate votes, there is no bill, stimulating or not, capable of saving us.
     
  15. Batman Jones

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    He can't have it both ways, not easily. No party "forces" anyone to do anything. If he cared a lot about the programs he voted against and is touting now, that's fine. He's free to explain nuance in his vote. He is also subject to the ridicule that traditionally comes from explaining nuance. That's the legacy of the GOP ever since Bush v. Kerry at least. If he wants to have it both ways that's fine, but he won't find it easy.

    The real problem here is that a lot of the Republicans that opposed the bill did so out of party loyalty rather than sincere opposition to the bill itself. That's fine too, but they will have to answer to their constituents.
     
  16. Invisible Fan

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    I thought the Republican spin was that anything not in the form of tax cuts are considered porkulus?
     
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  17. Batman Jones

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    Exactly the problem with the party now. They are without a leader or a philosophy so they have reverted to the position of being a perfect opposition party (much better than the Democrats at it btw, much more organized that way). They are just against everything Obama is for.

    But if they're to have any chance at changing their fortunes in 2010-12, they're going to have to figure out what they're for, not just what they're against.

    Obama was an expert at this. At the Iowa JJ Dinner during the primaries he made a point of explaining that it wasn't important to win unless Democrats understood why they wanted to win. The GOP needs someone that can articulate why it's important to win. Not just why Democrats suck but why Republicans would be better. All tax cuts all the time won't cut it.
     
  18. adoo

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    More GOP lawmakers lauds the stim bill that they voted against.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/18/bond-touts-stimulus/

     
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    Must be tuff being a repub these days...
     
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    republicans vote against spending bill after adding earmarks

    WASHINGTON — Republican congressmen derided the massive $410 billion spending bill approved by the House of Representatives last week, but some like Houston-area Rep. Ron Paul contributed to its size.

    Paul, of Lake Jackson, managed to insert 22 earmarks worth $96.1 million into the bill, leading the Houston delegation, according to an analysis of more than 8,500 congressionally-mandated projects in the bill by the Houston Chronicle.

    The so-call "omnibus" bill, which passed the House on a 245-178 vote, with only 16 Republicans in support, was chock-full of congressmen's pet projects for their districts.

    Paul's included repair projects to the Galveston Seawall damaged by Hurricane Ike and the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway.

    Second to Paul in the Houston delegation was Rep. John Culberson, R-Houston, who tallied $63.6 million in earmarks.

    Democrats were not far behind, with Rep. Al Green and Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee adding $50.1 million and $37.6 million respectively.

    Rep. Ted Poe, R-Humble, whose nine earmarks totaled $32.1 million, said they "allow lawmakers to have a say in how taxpayer dollars (are) spent."

    "It is in the best interest of taxpayers," Poe said, "to have their member of Congress secure funding for local projects than to leave it up to unaccountable and un-elected bureaucrats in Washington."

    Messages left Sunday by The Associated Press at the offices of Paul, Green and Jackson Lee seeking comment were not immediately returned.

    Culberson's spokeswoman Megan Mitchell, said he refuses special project requests "unless the project is cost effective and serves a legitimate government purpose."

    President Barack Obama has promised to cut earmarks, but may allow those in this spending bill to slip in under the wire because they were requested before he took office.

    Texas' U.S. senators were active as well.

    Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison led the state with 104 earmarks worth about $250 million in the House version of the bill.

    Like Poe, Hutchison said she would not be doing her job if she left the funding decisions to people "who may have never visited Texas and are unaccountable" to its voters.

    Her fellow Republican Texan in the Senate, John Cornyn, helped arrange at least 53 earmarks worth nearly $200 million.

    Only one Houston-area congressman — Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Austin — was earmark-free in the House bill.

    "The system," McCaul said, "is susceptible to waste, fraud and abuse."
     

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