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[Game of Thrones] Season 8

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  1. snowconeman22

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    I have a theory .

    Jon and dany are gonna talk it out and decide they love each other .

    They decide dany won't rule and will go off and live with Jon in the far north in the cave .

    Sansa and Tyrion will rule .

    While all of this is being realized , arya will sneak in without that information and assassinate dany .

    Kingdom is in good hands but Jon is really sad


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  2. Derp McFlopsky

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    The first 5 seasons are legit!!! This is just a weird ending because there’s no more source material
     
  3. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Easter Egg Hunter - Tell me why? نحن عائلة
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    Well, Jon will go to the Wildlings and find another Ygritte.

    Fishes in the sea are limited but still there.
     
  4. BMoney

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    The problem is that the show is painting this explanation in such broad strokes that the character arc is not very satisfying. Like, sure, we get that she has nobody left and has been betrayed and feels unloved- because she says this in the dialogue! That's just lazy writing.

    Other characters act in way that can help wrap up the story, rather than act in a way in the story that is consistent with their development. Think of Verys- does anybody really believe that this master survivor and insider who has worked with powerful people for decades would plot a coup so clumsily? Come on.

    The storytelling and character development that was once rich and surprising, has careened to a finish that isn't really working because the production needs the story to end while trying to tie up as many loose ends as possible. When the plot called for it, two dragons were killed easily. When Dany needed to turn into the Mad Queen, suddenly Drogon was unstoppable. If anything, the story insults in the intelligence of the viewers with this nonsense.
     
  5. Nick

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    A story that has no clear direction or end point is also insulting to intelligent viewers (see Lost).

    If this was a broadcast network show, they’d be churning out 20 episodes a year, with much lower production costs, and they’d try to milk as many seasons out of it till the ratings dipped.

    The show does have to end. Even when they were expertly written, these characters don’t have much staying power. The show killed off the best characters early on so you got max optimization out of them.
     
  6. Harrisment

    Harrisment i had suffice

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    This fits better

     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    Exactly. People equating the burning of the witch (who killer her baby and her husband), the worlocks (who tried to steal her dragons), the masters (who killed slaves) to burning the innocents out of the blue takes a complete turn in her character. Dany has always been ruthless and maybe she could become the mad queen, but the mad queen for her wouldn’t be by burning peasants and children alive.

    She is flawed and arrogant, but even then she has shown a consistent pattern of rescuing girls about to be raped, staying in mereen just to keep the peace for the peasants and leaving the 2nd sons there to maintain the order. She can get pissed but mad for her would be killing people that have already surrendered, her allies etc. they went for too much shock factor. Danny has a blood thirsty side but this is completely inconsistent with her character.
     
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    I agree. The story gave her reasoning to go mad and destroy the city. She had the background of watching her own brother die and believing that she benefited etc. She felt that Jon betrayed her when he told his 'sisters' the truth. She felt that everyone that she trusted to help her rule betrayed her.

    I get that and feel that she could have earned the right to go crazy and lay out havoc on King's Landing. But they way they showed it blew all of that. She sat on the dragon very calm doing nothing until the surrender bells rang and then all of a sudden that's when she got the crazy look and went and unleashed hellfire on them.

    That was just crap. It would have been better to show her decide her course of action before that or started the destruction prior to the bells ringing. It would have even better (story-wise) to have her unleash the fury after accepting surrender of King's Landing.

    It also makes sense for Arya to get away. The Hound talked some sense to her. What doesn't make sense is that she woke up and there was a white horse waiting for her to make her get away. That just seems lazy.

    The story part wasn't bad, but the execution was horrible.

    I did enjoy the Hound vs. the Mountain. I think that was earned and had a fitting ending.
     
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  10. CJLarson

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    It'll all be worth it if Drogon sets fire to Jon. Only when the flames disappear, Jon is standing there unburnt.
     
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  11. Harrisment

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    John was burnt by the lamp during an early episode when he is protecting Lord Commander Moremont from a Wight.
     
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  12. Harrisment

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    "Speaking to Cersei will not prevent a slaughter. But perhaps it's good the people see Daenerys Stormborn made every effort to avoid bloodshed and Cersei Lanister refused. They should know whom to blame when the sky falls down upon them."
     
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    Just FYI, one of the showrunners is responsible for writing X-Men Origins:Wolverine. That might explain things a little bit. Just saying.

    (He also wrote a really good book called "City of Thieves".)
     
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  14. CJLarson

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    Ahh, I see. Well there goes that.
     
  15. Nick

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    She did destroy all their military ability... I just think she wanted more of a fitting revenge. She didn't want a "surrender".
     
  16. jo mama

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    the only thing that would make that song more x-treme is if it had fatty on it sidelining a harmonica solo.
     
  17. Buck Turgidson

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    Who knows how much of that Wolverine movie ended up being his; allegedly his version was very dark and R-rated then the studio hired rewriters. Both the book and screenplay 25th Hour were good also.
     
  18. dachuda86

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    The show wanted to shock people... but can't say Danny didn't show flashes. Book readers had a better sense of this I think, and show watchers were too busy worshipping her. Well done GOT.


    The worst part of this was the poorly done battle plans all season. Who puts an army in front of a castle? Also war machines on the wall where you can attack them in the open? Turrible.
     
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  19. Commodore

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    have to think Arya killing NK and Dany nuking KL came straight from what GRRM told the writers

    they just suck at filling in the story around that
     
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  20. Buck Turgidson

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    Does being brought back from the dead by the Lord of Light (he does love fire after all) make you fireproof?
     
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