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Fun Videos about the Noah's Flood

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pirc1, Jul 25, 2017.

  1. hlcc

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    what overwhelming similarities? what simple google search confirmation are you referring to? do you mean blogs by wack jobs that selectively cherry pick bits and pieces from the other myths while ignoring all the contradicting parts?
     
  2. Exiled

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    here's an example :

    "Like Noah, Manu is also described as a virtuous individual and a chosen one. As the Satapatha Brahmana reports: “There lived in ancient time a holy man / Called Manu, who, by penances and prayers, / Had won the favour of the lord of heaven.”

    Manu was said to have three sons before the Flood – Charma, Sharma, and Yapeti, with startling similarity with the names of Noah’s three sons – Ham, Shem, and Japheth."



    similar stories can be found .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths

    the fun part : throughout history, humans found it hard to believe they share the same root as their inferior counterparts , so they asked for more solid scientific evidence

     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Uhhh, animals know when the weather is changing. Barometric pressure and such. This has been observed for as long as humans have been observing weather and animals, and is still observed to this day. Last Sunday, in fact.
     
  4. Exiled

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    right , which is a big part of solving the puzzle : how can Noah's ark fits thousands of creatures!
    by using tsunami's model : animals in the wild can take of itself , while domesticated animals were carried away
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Uh, nope. I'm talking about domesticated animals as well. Dogs, cats, (living together?!?!) cattle, horses, sheep, goats, that sort of stuff.

    eta: pigs too

    Also, explain how the freshwater and saltwater fish and crustaceans and such comingled?

    And how did any of them eat, outside of eating each other. But there were only 2 of each, right?

    So many questions about such a silly premise....
     
  6. Exiled

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    well, i disagree with silliness , i think there are many legit questions .

    the dominant understood narrative of Noah's ark generated from Genesis ,however the main concept of the story was found universally earlier ,with some nations who were not known to communicate or interacted with each others ,this is what make it interesting .i read islamic literature of supplementary explanation to the story and it was copy-paste from the Bible's accounts ,though Quran did not mention how long they were flooded ,could it lasted just a few minutes,which animals brought on ship or how many persons, or if it was universal flooding or limited to one area , etc ;


    "Also, explain how the freshwater and saltwater fish and crustaceans and such comingled?"

    this could provide a good analogy : from Quran ( He has let free the two bodies of flowing water(seas), meeting together,
    Between them is a Barrier which they do not transgress,
    Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?)

    science agree on this (commingled)
    https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/tutorial_estuaries/est05_circulation.html
     
  7. pirc1

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    Let me know when you want to play again.
     
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    Here's more fun story about Noah's arc and how it is not really an original...

     
  9. Exiled

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    well , those circulating Tubes do not make a valid criticism , the Bible did not say: we've an exclusive story of Noah's ark so stay tuned ! .Difference between names in stories and details do not overshadow the main concept

    take Jesus of Nazareth, born just 2000+ years ago , his name in the Western world is :Jesus, came from the latin name :Iesus ,came from the greek name : Iesous, , known to ME Christians as Yassu'a ( it was translated from Greek) , named in Quran Issa , in Hebrew :yēšūă

    if the above sound confusing , try this : Yahya Ibn Zakariya was named to John the Baptist! despite the difference in name spelling /pronunciations , it does not means they are known to be different persons

    and since we are here at John the Baptist ,he is considered to be the latest legit prophets to the Mandianies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandaeism

    this is an old Abrahamic religion traces its root from Adam, through Noah /his sons and ended with Yahia Ibn Zakaria , their God is almost identical to the Jews/Muslims , their rituals are very similars ....pray 3 times ,fast like some Christians ,with their scriptures etc
     
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    So why would a so called divinely inspired book use a story that predates it by thousands of years, change the character names, number of animals, where it occurred, etc. If you are not blinded by faith, it is not a hard leap to say that these stories were just passed down through generations and just happened to make its way to the bible. That in itself should put a huge dent into the claim that this was your gods claim because the previous stories had nothing to do with the abrahamic god.
     
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    Pretty amazing the number of people who believe in the arc still. Let's see the arc in Kentucky try to keep 10000 animals alive in it without modern equipment for a year.
     
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    ... especially if two of the animals are T-Rexes.
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

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    There are an estimated 6.5 million species of land animals on earth. This does not include freshwater species.
     
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    I am setting the bar super low, no way they can keep 10000 animals alive for a year under arc condition.
     
  15. Buck Turgidson

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    Of course not. The entire story is ludicrous.

    To paraphrase an American hero: "They're gonna need a bigger boat."
     
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    And hell a lot of people to service the animals. Not to mention animals would have nothing to eat after the flood, lol.
     
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    What a great movie idea! Working title could be ....
    Jurassic Arc.
     
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    I'm not specifically saying the Bible story is accurate or not,or any specific religion for this matter , the whole thing of beliefs is not an area of an interest in regards to this topic . i'm more interested in the history of humans ,with anthropological glasses to see different views from different historical era as much as possible .Every narrative was influenced initially by the culture ,environment and tradition also politics had the ultimate influence and most of the stories were exaggerated ,if it was't , probably people might lost interest for the lack of amusements.

    that being said ,Mandaeans religion that was dated back to Adam,Noah era , as ancient as it gets , have sophisticated books that may shock many, for instance their explanation of how life had begun described how the earth was in liquid state ,then became superficially solid , the crust was covered with ice , the creatures start to appear soon the ice melt .......and it was not borrowed from the National-geographic materials. their scripture have some environmental friendly approach , financial-health-social restrictions . even in Adam time -civilization were more sophisticated than what we thought , to me those were fascinating story in comparison to (we don't know but they're wrong!..)

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  19. bongman

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    So what exactly about all you said disproves what these YouTube videos claim?
     
  20. Exiled

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    on page one ,you would find my theological reasons for criticism , this guy demonstrate a knowledge within popular opinions , or this is at least my impression of the a few minutes of his tube that i watched ...

    the theory of evolution is counter parted with a more robust theory called : Extinction , which is not so popular ,it does not claim to know how things started by using less than logical evidence ,the extinction theory works in reverse to explain how things ended or would end .There are about 15 million Species living today with the assumption only >2 million species were documented . If a weird looking fossil found ,it means this specie had gone extinct like a TRILLION (or more than 99%) plus of other species . solid science behind it , failure of adaptation ,or a catastrophic event . Though ,a change of genetic can occur , it's limited in capacity and time . DNA does reach the point of saturation that cannot be replicated/repaired any longer as species run out from genetics code ( permanent copy of the cell genome), it's way more logical than the pseudoscience of evolution
     

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