Francis last night

Tex

We'll be in the Heat together
because I thought at the end
He jacked up some f*cked up 3s

not to mention That Wesley was able to come
of the f*cking pick and drill that
15 ~20 ft jumper all night

I notice in the east . . THEY PICK ALOT!
I watched Reggie Miller go against Iverson
and the whole game was the 2 of them running
in circles. I think West Guard play more
north south
while Easter Guards are the East West types
[Open court vs Half court game]

We need to learn what to do off
that silly pick. or Francis needs
to fight through a whole lot better

Rocket River

 

He settled only for outside shots most of the time, charlotte is not that great of a shot blocking team

Charlotte is #7 in the league in blocked shots.

 

Didn't Francis have like 3 or 4 dunks last night? And a sweet reverse. How many more times in a game should he be dunking, that he's being doubled?

The man had a terrific game, and still shot just about 50%. Not to mention he was one of the top rebounders, leading assist man, and top steals (I believe) last night? What else do you want?

 

For him to realize at the end of games he has 4 other teammates.
For him not to put up silly 2 foot back 3s in crucial situation
For him to act like a leader and get his team the W
sorry is that too much dreamshake?
stats are pretty but its not the same as a WIN.

For the love of GOD! He is a freaking rookie carrying a team on his back. While Lamar Odom has just about given it up in Los Angelos, Francis has kept us respectable and given us a chance in every game. What more do you want from him? Do you want him to drive to the basket and dunk every time he gets the ball? He is a rookie trying to learn the point guard position, while getting his own shots at the same time. Perhaps you overlooked the 8 assists and 6 rebounds he found time to collect while scoring 24 points, and bringing the team back from a double-digit deficit, early in the 2nd quarter.

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All I can say is he didn't play a perfect game.

That being said, who can have a perfect game in the NBA?

Stevie is the man!!!

 

He will learn, but since we are not going anywhere this year, I want him to make mistakes in the clutch THIS year, and learn how to win.

DaDakota

 

Absolutely unpleasable.

And to think that I have a reputation of being too hard on the Rox players and coaching staff.

 

Francis is the only player to lead his team in Points(874) Rebounds(258) Assists(343) Steals(72). That was from the HoustonChronicle.com

Isn't that just horrible. This Francis kid is just not a team player, is he?

 

It was not Steve's fault for Wesley coming off the picks for the clear shots. It is his "team-mate's" resposibility to recognize the pick and side over to cover the man(basketball 101). So don't jump on the man for his defensive efforts last night. I would like to see anyone complaining come off a D. Coleman pick at Steve's size running full steam ahead. please!

 

texasalsa,

I didn't think K. Thomas was 'awesome'.

I watched on several occassions where when the man he was guarding went to shoot and he did't even bother to put one much less two hands up. That's one thing that really irritates me. It shows a total lack of effort on the defensive side ot the ball.

He had a good offensive game, but defensively he was below average.

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I have a dream.........his name's Hakeem.

 

Steve Francis is a rookie... he is still learning... for that matter he will make some mistakes.. but not all is bad... through mistakes you learn.. and Francis is without a doubt becoming one of the best point guards on the league... You guys have to understand that when a player does what steve did it is because of confidence... i like stevie allot.. and i think that right now he is the heart of this team... and without him.. we`d be worse than the clippers if that is possible...

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Robjos The Key To The Future

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Jesus dont you think youre asking to much.. let him play the game... he knows it better than you and he know the choices he has to make. Its his call.

 

I think most every post in this thread has valid points, including Texsalsa. Stevie is a freaking rookie. In a few years, he will be a basketball god. Right now, he is a god in training. With the season shot, it really is a good time for him to learn. If the Rocks were in some kind of tight race, his mistakes would be magnified so much, it may inhibit his game. I think Stevie probably puts enough pressure on himself to win to benefit from any mistakes he may make in this, his rookie season.

 

I like the three's he took. One rimmed in and out. And on the game tying three he got a good look at the shot. I believed he'd make it and if he did flip the net it would have changed the game. If he's going to be the man on this team, then he needs to be taking those shots with confidence. He took em. Like Jordan has always said, you people forget all the ones I missed, but remember the shots I make. You can argue all you want about his shot selection, but it seems to me that Steve Francis is taking the big shots. And that's half the battle right there.

By the way, have you noticed that almost all of the Rockets are using the jab step. Who started doing that on our team first. Was it Mobes? It's been affective and relaible to create some space. I think Glenn Rice uses it the most.

 

True, but there's one problem with your argument. Michael was a 2, Francis is a 1. If Francis wanted to be a 2, he could have been... but being a PG entails specific responsibilities... notably, getting your teammates involved, making them better... and if that means that someone else has a better chance to win the game, Francis must learn to pass.

 

heypartner...Please make note of where I
said I didn't watch the Charlotte game.
I most certainly did watch the game, and
surely wouldn't comment otherwise.

That said. Its ludicrous to me that it
seems that if a player misses a shot, it
becomes a bad shot selected. I saw those
3's, and didn't think they were that bad
of shots. Its not like if Steve would of
passed to Mobley, it wouldn't of been any
different a shot. Or if he passed it to
Hakeem who looked absolutely miserbale
out there.

I tried to stick to the points made.
Salsa claimed Francs didn't get to the
Rack enough. Hogwash. He had like 4
dunks, and a very nice reverse. Not off
of breaks. How many more times in a game
can someone beat the double team? How
many more dunks does he need before he
qualifies to be going the hole enough?
He hi about 50 percent last night. He
got players involved by dishing out 8
assists, he hit the boards, he picked off
a few steals. All while getting 24
points.

My god. He played a wonderful game. I
really think that alot of people are
counting a missed 3 as a bad shot.

Heck I have much more a problem with
Mobley, who took some 3's with about 4
seconds off of the shot clock. Took a
looping drive jump sideways fadeaway, and
absolutely can't finish on the iso's he
gets.(actually this was one of his better
games at finishing some of those iso's)
So he jacks up those silly 18 footers,
with a man draped on him.


There's no questioning Steve's great
game. Mistakes can be had and still have
a great game.

 

Why doesn't Steve listen to Calvin Murphy and try a few more of the "stop n pop". A few of those and we might have pulled out a win, just like in the 2nd San Antonio game. The 3's are worth more , but Steve has a MUCH better chance of making the 10 - 16 foot jumper.

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