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Franchise players

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Easy, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
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    We all know that we are all thirsting for a true franchise player. The Pistons were the only team that won a championship without one.

    I wanted to list out all franchise players by teams. (Some teams don't have one.) When I say "franchise player" I do not include second tier stars. This is of course a bit subjective. But I think most people would agree on most of my choices:

    Atlantic
    Celtics: Pierce, Garnett
    Knicks: Anthony, Stoudemire
    Nets: Williams
    Raptors: --
    Sixers: --

    Southeast
    Bobcats: --
    Hawks: --
    Heat: James, Wade
    Magic: Howard
    Wizards: Wall

    Central
    Bucks: --
    Bulls: Rose
    Cavaliers: --
    Pacers: --
    Pistorns: --

    Southwest
    Grizzlies: --
    Hornets: Paul
    Houston: --
    Mavericks: Nowitzki
    Spurs: Duncan

    Northwest
    Jazz: --
    Nuggets: --
    Thunder: Durant
    Timberwolves: Love
    Trailblazers: Alderidge

    Pacific
    Clippers: Griffin
    Kings: --
    Lakers: Bryant
    Suns: Nash
    Warriors: --

    I counted 19. Three teams have 2. So almost half of the teams do not have a franchise player. A few of them (i.e. Duncan, Garnett, Nash, Bryant, Pierce) may have already been declining into sub-franchise status. On the other hand, 4 of these player are still on rookie contract (Griffin, Love, Wall, Rose).

    Here are a few points I want to make:
    1. There aren't enough franchise players to spread around for every team, especially when some teams horde more than one.

    2. In the past 12 months, 4 of these players changed teams, either by walking away in FA or by forcing their teams to trade them. Other than these 4 players, only Garnett and Nash have changed teams in their careers.

    3. When we complain about not having a franchise player, think about how extremely difficult it is to get one. And think about the fact that we had two just a few years ago.

    4. Franchise players forming superfriend teams is not good for competition in general.
     
  2. t_mac1

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    garnett and pierce aren't franchise players right now. they are winning similar to the pistons' recipe: 4-5 star players. none of their players are top 10 players.

    but you're right. that's why you have to build through the draft sometimes. a lot of young guys who are superstars now (westbrook, durant, rose, bg...).

    so you gotta scout well, and draft high (meaning you have to suck for a year or two)

    it's hard to trade for a superstar now unless he wants to go there.

    i don't think we'll get one by trade or signing.
     
  3. Octavianus

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    Could add Bosh in there, as he is a very good player, and easily a number one option on a lot of teams.
     
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    I would add Demarcus Cousins to the Kings as a franchise player. His already shown sign's of brilliance!
     
  5. v3.0

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    To be an NBA fan these days, it looks like you have to be a player first fan, instead of following one team that you bleed for through thick and thin. Personally I can't stand player only fans, because I tend to think of them as blind nutlickers to the superstars instead of having deep true knowledge of the game.

    But yes, it's already known the NBA is a superstar league and if the superstars are teaming up, the fans for the have-not teams best be prepared for some lottery teams or playoff fodder for the superstar teams.

    Message to Rockets fans: put away the brown bag for your head, a lot of teams are in the same predicament.

    Also, Bosh is clearly a tier 2 star, much like Odom and Pau.
     
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    Same could be said of Ellis with Golden State, Gay with Memphis, and Johnson with Atlanta.
     
  7. Octavianus

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    Love and Aldridge are both on the list, so if they are, Bosh is as well, as he is just as good as those too.
    But I agree, Bosh right now is t2 star, but he is a top notch one, as he is turning into a very good player on both sides of the ball.
     
  8. CJLarson

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    Aldridge a franchise player???
     
  9. Easy

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    These guys are all second tier stars. Teams with them being their alpha dogs won't go very far. You don't want to build your team around them.

    I agree that Cousins could well be one. But for now, due to his unstable character, I'd wait at least another year to make sure.
     
  10. Deckard

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    If Gashole of the Fakers happened to be on another team that was a good supporting cast, he might make the list, possibly. Nice job, Easy.

    :)
     

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