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Fire Bill O'Brien

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by DonnyMost, Sep 23, 2016.

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Should we fire Bill O'Brien?

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  1. Buck Turgidson

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    I disagree with a couple of your thoughts. Watching the Stros, let's talk later.
     
  2. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost not wrong
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    I thought this raised an interesting question, so I did a little googling.


    Arizona Cardinals
    GM hired before HC

    Atlanta Falcons
    GM hired before HC

    Baltimore Ravens
    GM hired before HC*

    *-Ozzie Newsom retired and had a successor appointed this year

    Buffalo Bills
    HC hired before GM

    Carolina Panthers
    GM hired before HC*

    *-Weird situation where GM who was there when Rivera was hired was brought back after his successor was fired

    Chicago Bears
    GM hired before HC

    Cincinnati Bengals
    Owner is GM

    Cleveland Browns
    GM hired before HC

    Dallas Cowboys
    Owner is GM

    Denver Broncos
    GM hired before HC

    Detroit Lions
    GM hired before HC

    Green Bay Packers
    GM hired before HC

    Houston Texans
    LMAO

    Indianapolis Colts
    GM hired before HC

    Jacksonville Jaguars
    GM hired before HC

    Kansas City Chiefs
    HC hired before GM

    Los Angeles Chargers
    GM hired before HC

    Los Angeles Rams
    GM hired before HC

    Miami Dolphins
    GM hired before HC

    Minnesota Vikings
    GM hired before HC

    New England Patriots
    HC is GM

    New Orleans Saints
    HC hired before GM

    New York Giants
    HC hired before GM

    New York Jets
    HC hired before GM

    Oakland Raiders
    HC hired before GM

    Philadelphia Eagles
    GM hired before HC

    Pittsburgh Steelers
    HC hired before GM

    San Francisco 49ers
    GM hired before HC

    Seattle Seahawks
    HC hired before GM (one week difference, possibly simultaneously)

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    GM hired before HC

    Tennessee Titans
    GM hired before HC

    Washington Redskins
    GM hired before HC


    So that's 20 instances where you have the GM being hired before the HC.

    4 instances of either the owner or HC acting as the GM (I consider this a null scenario).

    8 instances of the HC being hired before the GM.

    Now, I'm not saying that the order of hiring automatically determines the hierarchy/working relationship, but in my quick and dirty research, I did find that about half of these teams have had their GMs in place for many years (5+) before their current coach was onboarded. I think it would be weird for a guy who has been there over the course of multiple coaching regimes to not ultimately be in charge of the roster and the HC in general.
     
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  3. Hey Now!

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    That if given a choice between 8-4 and 4-8, I'll take 8-4 every single time and twice on Sunday because we know, from years & years of experience, that once the postseason starts, anything can happen. WHy pass up on that chance to tear the team down and rebuild? You later mention the players getting older... in what world is a lost season a *good* thing? Or an 11-win pace season a bad thing?

    That would be a gross misrepresentation of my logic. Any team that makes the postseason has a better chance of making the Super Bowl than one that does not - *that* is my logic. So, given the choice, and knowing anything could happen in the postseason, I would much prefer the team go 8-4 and take my chance they can put it together in January than 4-8 and rebuild everything.

    If your fandom is ring or bust, you should prepare for a lifetime of disappointment.

    He's 0-1 with Deshaun Watson; I think that's what he should be judged for - and no, they did not look good. I have no issue with pushing blame on him - but at the end of the day, Watson did not play well (and it did not appear to be because BoB did something to affect that) and they ultimately could not overcome a poor OL and significant injuries to key offensive personnel.
     
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  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Imagine dying on the hill that is Defending bill o’moron

     
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  5. DatRocketFan

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    He's feeling the hot seat, doesn't sound like one of the usual nice bs sht he sprouts after a defeat.
     
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  6. J.R.

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    Ric & Scarface be like

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    :D
     
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  7. Nick

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    My point was that it happens in the NFL, whereas all other sports you do see the GM hire the coach. The long standing NFL gm’s Are usually the more successful ones (or have had success in the past)... the coaches with more power likewise (minus the Texans).

    Isn’t Arians the defacto GM in TB? Carrol has a huge say in roster personnel. Andy Reid is co-GM. John Harbaugh also has a bigger role after Newsome left.

    The NFL coach is technically the most important of all pro sports coaches, and has the biggest roster to manage,... so there in lies the inherent increased responsibility to all things roster related.
     
  8. Hey Now!

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    Dude..........
     
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    Or.....he may want to trade Kahlil if Roderick Johnson has won the job.
     
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  11. rfrocket

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    BBQ flavor please!
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    What a ****ing jackhole that guy is.
     
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  13. gucci888

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    That’s cool but just keep up with the load management excuse he’s been using then. Natural question to ask when a starting player has sat out an entire week.
     
  14. SuraGotMadHops

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    This effing guy. If you're gonna be a dick to everybody, you have to earn the right to be a dick by being a multiple 'chip coach (Popovich, Bellichick). You can't suck ass and be an ass. Being an arrogant jerk when you completely suck at your job makes you look like such a damn clown. Yeezuz get this douchebag out of here.
     
  15. Buck Turgidson

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    Truth. This is all truth.
     
  16. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost not wrong
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    This is not the attitude of a man who is confident about his job performance.
     
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  17. raining threes

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    Snowflake?
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    Frankly, that post would fit in brilliantly in the D&D
     
  19. tmacfor35

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    I have to LOL at some of you getting upset over this.

    BoB made it clear earlier in the week about how he would handle injury questions. He said he would wait until he was mandated to release that information.

    Who here has been annoyed about telling someone something and that person disregard what you told them and continued to push on?

    Stop being little hypocritical biatches. It is annoying to deal with that. He is human.
     
  20. raining threes

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    I dont visit the D&D, what's it like over there?

    Feelings nothing more than feelings.

    I guess being raised in a family like that has made my skin thicker than some.
     

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