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[Feigen] Rockets consider amnestying Scola, as talks with the Magic grow "serious"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HMMMHMM, Jul 11, 2012.

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  1. Clutch

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    The only thing that has concerned me about the Houston Rockets the last few years is Les Alexander's guiding hand, and what restrictions he imposes on the team as far as future direction is concerned. I've been encouraged by the recent pursuit of cap space and picks and know well they have remained focused on Dwight Howard.

    But, I think IF the Rockets are actually willing to amnesty Scola (we'll see) and take back bad contracts to get Dwight, it further reinforces two things to me:

    1) Les Alexander is willing to pony up the dough to win, something that should be applauded.
    2) Les Alexander isn't willing to lose, something that should be feared.

    I put chances of rebuilding (meaning going young, picking up a great pick of our own) this year at less than zero. Can't see him doing it.

    Translation: We better get Howard.
     
    #441 Clutch, Jul 12, 2012
  2. zcity

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    Couldn't this news have waited til morning? I'm in insomnia refresh mode.
     
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    We are but grasshoppers in their sight!
     
    #443 Rocket Freak, Jul 12, 2012
  4. heypartner

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    Translation on Clutch's translation: if we don't get Howard, Les will make Morey use the rebuilding Lowry for Toronto pick on someone else rather than keeping it.
    :(
     
    #444 heypartner, Jul 12, 2012
  5. OlajuwonFan81

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    Could very well be......i am not a proponent of trying to get better while being mediocre like we have been either.

    I am all in on HOWARD.......just hope we don't have to take Hedo's contract back.
     
    #445 OlajuwonFan81, Jul 12, 2012
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    If we actually amnesty Scola to do a direct two team trade with Orlando, you can probably place a safe bet that Turkoglu will be on a plane to Houston. In my opinion, anyway. I can live with that, depending on what else is in the deal. If we take on the bulk of Orlando's bad contracts, but keep more of our young talent, and perhaps one or both of the Knicks' 2nd round picks, for example.
     
    #446 Deckard, Jul 12, 2012
  7. W22_STREAK

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    cant we trade scola to a team with capspace and get a 1st rounder out of it? man, i am so sure there are teams out there with capspace that we can send scola to and having scola make a meaningful contribution there. blazers? pacers? toronto? man, I cant freaking believe we are amnesty this premier post player!!!
     
    #447 W22_STREAK, Jul 12, 2012
  8. rocketman84

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    Haha exactly. Also, i got nothing done at work today.
     
    #448 rocketman84, Jul 12, 2012
  9. OremLK

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    I would change that to "Howard or Bynum", but either of those would essentially depend on Orlando agreeing to accept our package of prospects/picks.

    It's a little scary that all our eggs are pretty much in one basket that way. I hope Morey knows what he's doing.
     
    #449 OremLK, Jul 12, 2012
  10. rocketman84

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    The fact that we are on the verge of this even though we came up short of moving into the top 10 of the draft proves that Morey knows what he is doing. The dude is like the honey badger, relentless.
     
    #450 rocketman84, Jul 12, 2012
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    Amnesty Scola.

    Trade Martin, Harrelson, Toronto pick, Houston 1st, Dallas 1st, NYK 2nd, Morris, Jones for Howard, Turk, JRich

    Does this trade work? Do we say no?

    Brooks / Machado
    Lee / Lamb
    Parsons / White
    Patterson / White
    Howard / Montiejunas

    Good team? Contender? I say it is if Motie, White and Lamb pan out.
     
    #451 torque, Jul 12, 2012
  12. OremLK

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    Instinctively I'm only 50/50 on it getting done. Let's hope so.
     
    #452 OremLK, Jul 12, 2012
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    So the Rockets basically become the Orlando Magic with rookies?
     
    #453 hooroo, Jul 12, 2012
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    I would be happy as hell with that. You never know how young guys are going to turn out but I really like Parsons, DMo, White and Lambs chances of becoming solid players. If just one of them live up to their potential we will be sitting pretty in this scenario.
     
    #454 Possum, Jul 12, 2012
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    Say we get Dwight Howard and he decides to bolt after the season. He will be bolting via a S&T deal, so we will not be getting nothing for him. We will get a package comparable to what we gave up to get him, and whatever young, growing players we have remaining on the squad will be one year more developed than they were when we got DH12. It is not the end of the world if we get him and he leaves after one year. I personally think he will resign if we get him. Too much $ he would be leaving on the table. He is shallow and after the $ and fame. Neither NY team can sign him, Lakers, Heat, Clips are up up against the cap too. Mavs are aging rapidly and without DWill are no longer appealing to Dwight. His options are growing more limited by the day. He will stay in Houston if we make the trade. TRUST
     
    #455 Roachiep, Jul 12, 2012
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    Fixed.
     
    #456 acsorelle4, Jul 12, 2012
  17. rocketman84

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    Fair enough. Based on reports it seems like it got close to getting done today before they backed off. Also, when we didn't get the 5th pick, people thought we had no chance at Dwight.

    Morey is like inception. He is weaving multiple scenarios that we can't comprehend...he is mind boning the league
     
    #457 rocketman84, Jul 12, 2012
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    QFT. aelliott in on the (very) short list of most knowledgeable posters on this BBS, particularly about cap issues.

    If aelliott posts it, it's money pretty much 99.999% of the time.
     
    #458 BimaThug, Jul 12, 2012
  19. Fullcourt

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    I don't believe we are considering amnestying Scola. Bima's post about timing our offer sheets makes a lot of sense. In any case, Luis Scola is still a quality player in the league and I'd be surprised if we couldn't ship him off to a team for a first rounder.
     
    #459 Fullcourt, Jul 12, 2012
  20. jimmyv281

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    Why can't we amniesty Martin 12 million a year?

    Or maybe is a part in the trade?
     
    #460 jimmyv281, Jul 12, 2012
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