Evidence that Hakeem and Akeem whipped Jordan's Bulls

Championships are not won in the regular season. The rockets had plenty of chances to play the bulls in the finals. When the playoffs came they were defeated, so quit making excuses about what you couldn't did. If you could do it, you would be in the finals doing it.

 

unless michael managed to average 45-50 pts a game, they had no chance of getting past orlando in 95

 

Lets look at it this way. The Rockets and Bulls never played in a finals so we don't know for sure how things would've played out.
Being a Rockets' fan I am going to pick the Rockets.

 

Hardly. His playoff performance didn't suffer. The stats to back it up have been posted numerous times.

How are you saying on one hand that the Championship isn't won during the regular season, so the regular season match ups don't mean anything. Yet now you're saying that if Jordan had played the regular season they would have beaten the Rockets in 95?

Pick a side, either the regular season matters or it doesn't.

Bottom line is match ups. The Rockets had answers for the Bulls, but the Bulls didn't have answers for the Rockets.

 

The Bulls with Jordan had a chance to play the Rochets in the Finals, when the playoffs came they were defeated, so quit makung excuses what you couldn't did ( don't you mean what they could Do???). If you could do it, you would be in the finals doing it.

 

Plenty of contradictions in his claims. See post #581 in this thread (I highlighted another one).

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=5778111&postcount=581

Bulls didnt lose because of what Jordan did or did not do. Bulls lost because they didnt have Horace Grant. Jordan playing the entire season would not have changed that.

 

No, I don't think so. I believe we were still MUSTARD YELLOW and RED. I don't even think Clyde was playing...

 

This conversation comes up way too often on this board with people vehemently arguing for both sides. What does it matter? At the end of the day, the Rockets won two, the Bulls won six - good enough for me. Logic would dictate that if the Rockets met the Bulls in the finals during that stretch of good match-ups, they probably would be the favorites.

Then again, it is Jordan and it's hard to predict how he would've turned it up in the Finals against the Rockets - a team he admitted gave him lots of trouble over the years.

You guys really shouldn't get so caught up in what the media says - I mean Jordan was their poster boy, and rightfully so since he was partially responsible for making basketball as popular as it is today. They are just trying to stand behind the guy they've always stood behind...no big deal.

 

Who had the most chances , the rockets. In 95 Jordan came back at the end of the season after nearly 2 years away from basketball. He wasn't at his best. In 96 he came back at his best and nobody won again until he retired.

 

why you say he wasnt at his best. the stats have been posted in here, and his playoffs numbers in 95, are the very similar to what he did other years, so he wasnt "rusty".

 

Based on what?? It's not his numbers, because his numbers weren't any different. The Bulls had zero inside presence in 1995. None. Zip. And this hurt them more than anything MJ could or couldn't do, and because of it, they lost to Orlando.

You keep contradicting yourself with regard to whether or not the regular season matters. So which one is it?

All we have to go on are match ups when arguing hypothetical games. The Rockets had an answer for the Bulls at every position while the Bulls had no answer for us at our best position. This exact reasoning is why the Rockets got beaten by Seattle: match ups. This was, in fact, such a consistent issue with us vs. Seattle that we traded away half of our championship team just to get Barkley. We did not get Barkley to beat Chicago. We got him to get us passed the friggin' Sonics, who were the only team that had our number.

This simply cannot be your rationalization when MJ's regular season and playoffs stats have been posted many times already right here in this very thread.

"Rusty" and "not at his best" are the same thing. Were this the case, his numbers would have been down and he would have had a marked improvement in the year or years to follow. They weren't and they didn't. Jordan was himself, the numbers prove it, and he got bounced by a team that was swept by the Rockets.

Currently, you're trolling. If you want to argue, fine. But please at least try to not contradict yourself. Coming up with a decent argument would also be more beneficial than saying "nuh uh" while sticking your fingers in your ears when anyone else wants to talk.

 

If Jordan had played the whole season, would he suddenly be quick enough to stop Penny, and play the post and slow down Shaq?

 

No. But he did stay at Holliday Inn during the series.

 

In 96 he was quick enough and look what happen.

 

In 96, they added a DPOY, First team defensive unit, arguably the greatest rebounder of all time to their lineup.

The complete lack of interior presence sort of disappeared after that.

 

What do that have to do with Jordan being quick enough? If Jordan played the whole season in 95 that interior presence would been taken care of through a trade. Do you think the bulls would have went into the playoffs with Jordan on the team and not have that interior presence. Don't forget the trade dead line had already passed.

 

Don't forget that Jordan was his usual awesome self, which the numbers PROVE, and he still got bounced, mmkay?

 

You talking about scoring, that's natural for him. Jordan didn't have his legs fully under him and he was getting the ball stole from him. In 96 he was back to his dominant self, which is why nobody could win championships until he retired.