[ESPN] Sixers Getting in Position to Offer Brand Massive Contract

Man, this is insane. So much money being throwed at someone who only played EIGHT games last season. What a weak free agent market.

A Sixers team + Brand does look pretty good though...

 

It will be really interesting to see what happens to the Clips if they lose Brand. I'm not sure Maggette returns either way, and Baron Davis plus Kaman isn't going to put much fear into anybody.

Sixers would be pretty impressive with Brand. It would be a much better fit than with Golden State, and easier on him personally to be in the East.

Evan

 

Here is true insanity: Either the Warriors or Sixers offering Ft. Knox to Josh Smith and the Hawks decide not to match. Breaking the bank for a player like Brand makes complete sense for the Sixers. This would be a great coup for them. But if they lose out and then buy Josh Smith away from Atlanta, they will regret it.

After Brand makes up his mind, the dominoes will fall.

 

That would certainly shift a bit of power over to the Eastern Conference and leave the Clippers pretty much screwed.

 

Please go to the east. So we can have less playoff contending teams in the west (GS and LAC).

 

He's not leaving the Clips. But he would be a perfect fit in Philadelphia, where those guys come to play every night.

Miller
Iguodala
Thaddeus Young
Brand
Dalembert

Very scrappy team with two guys contesting shots at the basket. Lock for EC playoffs.

 

Why cant the 76ers throw their full MLE at Maggette to boot? If healthy they could take out the Celtics.

 

They are under the cap. They have no MLE.

 

When they sign Brand and cap out they don't acquire one?

 

I am not sure why all these are offering such massive contracts to guys like Brand? Sure he is a great player, but he isnt one that will carry you to a championship. Some of these GMs just baffle me.

 

I am almost 100% sure that you get to use the MLE only if you're over the cap going into the off-season, so I would say no.

 

interesting i wonder if there is a way to get Carney from the sixers i think he would be good off the bench as a 2/3

 

I agree.. from what I've seen, this guy is pretty gifted offensively and can fly. His defense and rebounding could use some work though...

 

Coming from somebody that's completely enamored with Josh Smith, the Sixers would be wise to pursue Brand first. Smith is still figuring out the game while Brand makes you an immediate threat out East.

As for Carney, I would absolutely take him. He's young, athletic, 6'6" and capable of playing both wing positions. Mind you, our backup "wings" last year after the Bonzi/B-Jax deal were B-Jax/Head/Novak/Landry/etc. and that thought never escapes my mind.

 

Brand should just go to Miami so that we don't have another contender out west in the clippers.

 

How do exceptions count against the cap?



If a team is below the cap, then their Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and/or Traded Player exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap. This is to prevent a loophole, in a manner similar to free agent amounts (see question numbers 29, 30, 31, 32). A team can't act like they're under the cap and sign free agents using cap room, and then use their Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and/or Traded Player exceptions. Consequently, the exceptions are added to their team salary (putting the team over the cap) if the team is under the cap and adding the exceptions puts them over the cap. If a team is already over the cap, then the exceptions are not added to their team salary. There would be no point in doing so, since there is no cap room for signing free agents.

So it is not true that being under the cap necessarily means a team has room to sign free agents. For example, assume the cap is $49.5 million, and a team has $43 million committed to salaries. They also have a Mid-Level exception for $5 million and a Traded Player exception for $5.5 million. Even though their salaries put them $6.5 million under the cap, their exceptions are added to their salaries, putting them at $53.5 million, or $4 million over the cap. So they actually have no cap room to sign free agents, and must instead use their exceptions.

Teams have the option of renouncing their exceptions in order to claim the cap room. So in the example above, if the team renounced their Traded Player and Mid-Level exceptions, then the $10.5 million is taken off their team salary, which then totals $43 million, leaving them with $6.5 million of cap room which can then be used to sign free agent(s).

Starting January 10 of each season, the Mid-Level, Bi-Annual, Larry Bird, Early-Bird and Non-Bird exceptions begin to reduce in value. For example, if there are 180 days in the season, then these exceptions (if they are still unused) reduce by 1/180 of their initial value each day starting January 10. If a team uses their $5 million Mid-Level exception on February 1, then the exception is actually worth $4,361,111.

The Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and Traded Player exceptions may be lost entirely, or the team may never receive them to begin with. This happens when their team salary is so low that when the exceptions are added to the team salary, the sum is still below the salary cap. If the team salary is below this level when the exception arises, then the team doesn't get the exception. If the team salary ever drops below this level during the year, then any exceptions they had are lost.

For example, with a $49.5 million salary cap, assume it's the offseason, and a team has $41 million committed to salaries, along with a Mid-Level exception for $5 million, a Traded Player exception for $2.5 million, and an unrenounced free agent whose free agent amount is $2 million. Their salaries and exceptions total $50.5 million, or $1 million over the cap. What if their free agent signs with another team? The $2 million free agent amount comes off their cap, so their team salary drops to $48.5 million. This total is below the cap so the team loses its Mid-Level and Traded Player exceptions.

There is logic behind this. The whole idea behind an "exception" is that it is an exception to the rule which says a team has to be below the salary cap. In other words, an exception is a mechanism which allows a team to function above the cap. If a team isn't over the cap, then the concept of an exception is moot. Therefore, if a team's team salary ever drops this far, its exceptions go away. The effect is that a team may have either exceptions or cap room, but they can't have both.

 

I was interested in Carney when he was getting drafted but now he doesn't seem so great. The best way i can think of his game is Kirk Snyder was a better shooter but also a worse defender and rebounder. I think they have about the same net effect.

Now if we could trade for Thadeus Young that would be something. I think he could evolve into a pseudo Josh Smith. Wish makes me wonder why they would go after Josh Smith so hard.

 

It would be very good for the Rockets if this happens, IMO. Without Davis or Brand, I think the Warriors become a vastly inferior team (obviously) while with just adding Davis, and losing Brand, the Clippers are no better off than they would've been without Davis. If this goes down, neither the Clippers nor Warriors would be true playoff contenders.