ESPN caught spreading lies about James Harden's record breaking 2016/2017 Season

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  1. RocketsTruth

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    From ESPN's #NBARank:

    Stats & Info: Harden scored or assisted on 4,538 points last season, exactly one point shy of Tiny Archibald's NBA record set in 1972-73. With Chris Paul in town, Harden figures to spend more time off the ball which could spell trouble for opposing teams. Harden ranked in the 91st percentile in points per play on spot-ups last season.


    ESPN states here that Harden scored or assisted(created) 4,538 points.

    Source: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarank110/nbarank-players-1-10

    However, a quick search into NBA.com's Player Tracking reveals that Harden led the league for points created off assists with 2,198 points created through assists.


    Source: http://stats.nba.com/players/passin...son&PerMode=Totals&sort=AST_PTS_CREATED&dir=1

    Another quick search into Basketball Reference's database reveals that Harden totaled 2,356 points last season.

    Source: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01.html

    So, the sum of his 2,198 points created through assists and the 2,356 points created through scoring is 4,554. That is 4,554 points created over the course of the 2016/17 season.

    ESPN initially stated and continues to state that he was one point shy of the record, standing at 4,538.

    This was made an issue back when they first published the article regarding Harden's "coming short" of the points created record. However, they still have not corrected themselves and continue to publish false information about a fairly significant statistical record.

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    As a Rockets Fan i also find it sad how ESPN would track Westbrooks triple doubles throughout the season with a westbrook tracker, but would not put a tracker on Harden going for history like this. Maybe he would have garnered more mvp support from other media outlets and casuals if they promoted this amazing achievement he was chasing. Instead all i heard the media use as Harden's case for MVP was team record.. sad
     
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    They are too busy protesting at Berkeley to do any research. :D
     
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  4. bobrek

    bobrek Vamos Los Astros

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    Why is ESPN the one that is wrong?
     
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    Nuff said!!!
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  6. Reeko

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    Wasn't this already broken down on here and it was established that he did indeed miss out on the record by 1 point? In any case, I trust what Elias says over what a random Clutchfans poster says, and I also don't care about this.
     
  7. TracyMacAddidas

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    If accurate, you should go to a known sports blog with this info & see if they want to publish it, ESPN has been hating on us & Harden for years now, this is the kind of thing that needs to be known.
     
  8. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    you think one of these 2 sites are wrong

    http://stats.nba.com/players/passin...son&PerMode=Totals&sort=AST_PTS_CREATED&dir=1

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01.html

    Or the "random Clutchfans poster" math is wrong?
     
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  9. don grahamleone

    don grahamleone Contributing Member

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  10. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    most likey not SAP's traditional core ERP suite (it's still possilbe they somehow customized/configured this just to collect and store data)

    but their Analytics suite (formerly Business Objects)

    https://www.sap.com/sea/products/analytics.html
     
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  11. don grahamleone

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    Can anyone find this stat by going to nba.com/stats? Not using this person's link I mean. I think this page might have been faked. I don't see that stat type anywhere on their page.

    Dude might be fishing.

    Edit:
    I think the link that was up top is funky.

    I went here:
    https://stats.nba.com/players/passing/
    >Then clicked on totals instead of per game
    >Then clicked on "AST PTS CREATED" to organize the column by leader

    Yup, 2198 comes up. OP is onto something.

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  12. Reeko

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    this was all broken down on here and discussed months ago

    Harden had 907 assists, and it was confirmed that 368 of those assists led to 3 pointers....so 907x2+368=2,182 points created off assists

    Harden scored 2,356 points...so 2,356+2,182=4,538 which means that he missed Archibald's record by 1 point

    there is no lie or conspiracy, he missed the record
     
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    You didn't account for and 1's.
     
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    Htowndumbass' brother
     
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  15. Reeko

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    That's not included in Archibald's points produced record, so why should it be for Harden?

    this is how they came up with Archibald's official record...he scored 2719 points in 72-73, and had 910 assists...so 2719+(910x2)=4539 points produced
     
  16. vlaurelio

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    so the post above yours with link and instructions is wrong?

    just like the other poster said did you account for and 1s?
     
  17. don grahamleone

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    What's sad is it's looking like an actual media conspiracy, but it just doesn't feel right posting the words. :(
     
  18. DaGreatest

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    Well don't waste your life commenting lame, it can't be said enough.
     
  19. Reeko

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    Yeah, it's wrong. Unfortunately, he missed the record by 1 point. Why should I account for and-1's for Harden when it wasn't accounted for Archibald? Archibald's official record did not include and-1's.
     
  20. Reeko

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    Who tf are u? Keep it moving.
     
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