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[ESPN] Buy or sell: CP3 more important to his team than Steph Curry

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  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Buy or sell: CP3 more important to his team than Steph Curry
    Andre Snellings
    http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...ll-chris-paul-more-important-team-steph-curry

    Buy or sell: Chris Paul is more important to the Rockets than Stephen Curry is to the Warriors
    The Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets just got their starting point guards back this weekend. And both teams welcomed them back with open arms. The Warriors went 5-6 in the 11 games that Steph Curry missed with a strained groin, while the Rockets went 0-3 in the three games that Chris Paul missed with a sore left leg.

    So which team missed their PG more? And who is more valuable to their given team?

    Curry might seem like the clear choice, as some consider him a favorite to win his third NBA MVP award this season. Curry ranks in the top five by player efficiency rating (PER) at 27.77, well ahead of Paul's PER of 19.9 (56th). Curry is on an astounding pace when healthy, averaging 42.8 points per 100 possessions while making 54.1 percent of his 2-point shots, a whopping 49.2 percent from behind the arc and 92.3 percent from the line. Meanwhile, Paul's per-100 stats are down 3.0 points and 0.7 assists compared to last season, while his turnovers have ticked up by 1.0 per-100 and his true shooting percentage is down at 56.0 percent, his lowest mark since 2006-07.

    Match Curry's individual numbers with the Warriors' dynasty continuing to drop games in Curry's absence and he seems the obvious choice. But it has to be mentioned that the vast majority of the time Curry has missed overlapped with Draymond Green being out (toe). Thus, the Warriors' recent woes can't be solely attributed to Curry, as Green typically has his own MVP-level impact on the Dubs' fortunes. Plus, the Warriors feature an MVP in Kevin Durant and another all-history shooter in Klay Thompson.

    The Rockets were the No. 1 seed in the Western Conference last season after posting the NBA's best record (65-17) and highest average scoring margin (plus-8.5). Their struggles out the gate this season have caught everyone's eye, raising questions of whether the departures of Trevor Ariza and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute were too much for them to recover from.

    However, closer examination shows that the majority of Houston's struggles can be attributed to Paul's slide and absences. In the games Paul has missed, the Rockets are 0-5 with an average scoring margin of minus-9.4. In their other 16 games, they are 11-6 with an average margin of plus-3.3. But the trends suggest strongly, that the Rockets (with Paul) are improving rapidly after a very slow start. They have won 10 of their last 13 games that Paul has played in with a scoring margin of plus-7.8, numbers very reminiscent of the win rate and scoring margin that propelled them to the top of the West last season. Interesting.

    Paul's importance to the Rockets is easy to understand, as the entire Mike D'Antoni offense is built around having smart, skilled on-ball decision makers surrounded by shooters who can create and exploit offensive mismatches. Though James Harden is a worthy MVP, Paul is still the best floor general on the team, the best decision-maker and creator for teammates and also the best mid-range operator on a team that otherwise primarily shoots 3-pointers or layups.

    When Paul is out, the Rockets' offense gets more one-dimensional around Harden with more limited finishers needing him to create the offense. Paul's presence, then, guarantees that the Rockets always have redundant MVP-caliber lead guards running the D'Antoni system as well as a shooter on the court that the defense has to respect as a secondary creator. When it's working well, it makes the team seem close to unbeatable. But when Paul is absent, the team's holes are easier to exploit.

    While it can be argued and well-supported that Curry might be the better player overall, I buy that Paul is more valuable to the Rockets than Curry is to the Warriors.
     
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    media conspiracy . . . against the Dubs
     
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  3. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Curry buoyed by his all star buddies Thompson, KD and Green. Facts!
     
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    I agree that CP3 is more valuable to the Rockets than Curry is to GS. Without Curry and Green, GS is basically a .500 team. With only Curry out and Green available, they’re obviously better than that. Without CP3, the Rockets aren’t even close to being a playoff caliber team. The same applies to having CP3, but not Harden.
     
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    thinly veiled Harden definitely not winning MVP thread.
     
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    But is he more important than Iggy? I mean they would've beat us in 5 with Iggy, right?
     
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    I love this golden nugget!
     
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    Haha. That one will never get old.
     
  9. Kruze10

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    I hate when people bring up Igoudala missing as an argument against the Rockets pushing the Warriors to 7 games. THEY HAVE 4-FREAKING ALL-STARS! They could literally have no one the bench and still be a contender.
     
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    I actually think Harden should have been compared with Curry, and not CP3.

    GSW pre-Durant was still a monster of a team. HOU pre-CP3 was also a really great team.
     
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    Definitely buy. How is this even a debate?

    If we hold Durant and Harden equal, the Warriors still have Klay "most overrated guard in the league" Thompson to pick up the slack, right?

    Any "depth" argument can't possibly argue that the Rockets are deeper. The joke of the Warriors is that they have 2 MVPs, 3 "all stars" and still depth on their bench, due to the decisions of a certain snake.

    The Rockets have 1 MVP, 1 all-star and 3 starter quality players otherwise. Harden scores 50, CP3 wins the game. Harden is the motor, CP3 is the steering. Lose one, and you can barely compete.

    Point guards make a huge difference in the NBA. People tend to think that everyone in the top of the Warriors rotation is an all-NBA caliber player just by association, but the real genius of the Warriors is the fit and chemistry of the pieces. Without Curry, Durant and Klay aren't as important as supposed when times are good. Everyone plays best with the ball at the right places and times, and with enough space.
     
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  12. RocketsFido

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    Warriors fans are so spoiled. 5 All-Stars on one team and they b**** about missing 1 or 2 stars as the reason why they're losing.

    I look forward to the day to see them do a full rebuild and have to tank for multiple years.
     
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    This time thiccly veiled.
     
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  14. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Buy.

    Harden needs the Rockets MVP to beat mediocre teams
     
  15. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Paul is more important because we have 4-and-a-half NBA players and a bunch of old Rudy T style CBA finds on this roster.
     
  16. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    I mean they were irrelevant for about 30 years - the current "fans" just aren't aware of that. ;)
     
  17. tc0330

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    buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy

    did i mention buy?
     

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