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Elected official blocking social media users violate the 1st amendment

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by txtony, Jul 9, 2019.

  1. txtony

    txtony Member

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    Likely going to all the way to the Supreme Court. Agree with the Court opinion.



    "We do not consider or decide whether an elected official violates the Constitution by excluding persons from a wholly private social media account. Nor do we consider or decide whether private social media companies are bound by the First Amendment when policing their platforms. We do conclude, however, that the First Amendment does not permit a public official who utilizes a social media account for all manner of official purposes to exclude persons from an otherwise‐open online dialogue because they expressed views with which the official disagrees."
     
  2. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    the ultimate troll doesn't like to be trolled? Shocking.
     
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  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob my celli weighs a ton

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    Well, it's not even just people trolling him. The very secure and extremely stable genius doesn't like to be corrected or criticized in any way. He melts down at the slightest heat... Ya know, if the term "snowflake" wasn't reserved exclusively for liberals... hmmm...
     
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    Good. His tweeting has always been a complaint of mine. It isnt necessary.
     
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  5. BruceAndre

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    "Dear Mr. Trump: You cannot block people on Your Own Twitter Account. It's unconstitutional." .....more clown world. :confused:
     
  6. peleincubus

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    Hopefully in about a year and a half he can block all of the people he wants to.
     
  7. larsv8

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    He will just ignore it.
     
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  8. txtony

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    This doesn’t stop him from tweeting so that will continue. And while I agree that it isn’t necessary, it not necessary a bad thing to talk directly to the public bypassing the middle man. Bad or good isn’t the path of communication but how the person uses it and what is communicated.
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    The butthurt-in-chief only has himself to blame... he positioned twitter as a way to communicate with American citizens and announce official business. By doing so, he opened up the First Amendment argument...
     
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  10. txtony

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    It’s not his own twitter account.

    It belong to a private company. As he is using it for official work, it’s belong to the public domain as well.
     
  11. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost clean your room bucko

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    If he wants to go back to being a private citizen we are more than happy to accommodate him.
     
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  12. BruceAndre

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    Humor aside, this sort of thing does raise the issue of who owns the account, any social media account, and the content therein. I'm sure that the FB/Google/YT/IG overlords would say that they own all the stuff on their site -- and they might, for the time being .....
     
  13. txtony

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    They pretty much own and can do whatever they deem necessary with it. Read Twitter EULA. Read others social media EULA.

    Even if they don’t, as soon as you use it for government official work, it’s no longer your own private data.
     
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  14. bobrek

    bobrek Person, woman, man, camera, TV
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    You own your stuff. For example, you can publish a book of your tweets, but another person or entity cannot do so.
     
  15. BruceAndre

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    Heh. Txtony and Bobrek directly contradict each other, and in consecutive posts.

    Which goes to show.....all this stuff is about as clear as mud.

    It's my understanding that the sites own your stuff/content, and can do what they please with it. Whether that will always be the case is another matter.
     
  16. Rashmon

    Rashmon Contributing Member

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    Exactly. This buffoon's utter ignorance of basic civics is astounding.
     
  17. txtony

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    Read the EULA. It’s your content and they can do pretty much whatever ever they want with it. It’s effectively their. Copyright protection is a separate topic.

    Here: https://twitter.com/en/tos

    Your Rights and Grant of Rights in the Content
    You retain your rights to any Content you submit, post or display on or through the Services. What’s yours is yours — you own your Content (and your incorporated audio, photos and videos are considered part of the Content).

    By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through the Services, you grant us a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, reproduce, process, adapt, modify, publish, transmit, display and distribute such Content in any and all media or distribution methods (now known or later developed). This license authorizes us to make your Content available to the rest of the world and to let others do the same. You agree that this license includes the right for Twitter to provide, promote, and improve the Services and to make Content submitted to or through the Services available to other companies, organizations or individuals for the syndication, broadcast, distribution, promotion or publication of such Content on other media and services, subject to our terms and conditions for such Content use. Such additional uses by Twitter, or other companies, organizations or individuals, may be made with no compensation paid to you with respect to the Content that you submit, post, transmit or otherwise make available through the Services.

    Twitter has an evolving set of rules for how ecosystem partners can interact with your Content on the Services. These rules exist to enable an open ecosystem with your rights in mind. You understand that we may modify or adapt your Content as it is distributed, syndicated, published, or broadcast by us and our partners and/or make changes to your Content in order to adapt the Content to different media.
     
  18. BruceAndre

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    How do these things go together? I mean, logically?

    1) It's your content

    and

    2) they can do anything they want with it. It’s effectively their(s).

    I'm not challenging your analysis, necessarily.

    I'm saying the whole social media thing -- including related 1st amendment issues -- is as clear as mud; with logic (or rules) that often contradict themselves.
     
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  20. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost clean your room bucko

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    Physical ownership and IP ownership are two different things.

    For example...

    I create a video and post it to Youtube.

    I own the copyright/IP of that video (and all the protections therein, e.g. no one can republish it without my consent, no one can profit off it but me, etc). Youtube owns the physical data (in this case, the video) hosted on their site (meaning they can delete it, censor it, etc).
     
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