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Dwight Howard traded to Memphis for C.J. Miles

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Jul 5, 2019.

  1. Raven

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    It's vicious how quickly a star can completely fall off the map.
     
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    Will he? I would be skeptical of that.
     
  3. jacoby

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    Three straight DPOY awards, like ten all-star appearances. He was at one point the face of the league with LeBron and even eliminated his team to go to the NBA Finals. Dude should be first ballot.
     
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    If Tracy McGrady got in Dwight Howard will get into the HoF.
     
  5. JazzLakerHater

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    Absolute lock. Basketball hall of fame is a joke.
     
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    Also getting into the Hall of BootyHole... HOB is so easy to get into these days. No standards. :mad:
     
  7. Clutch City1993

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    Lol was that a gay joke?
     
  8. BigDog63

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    McGrady was better for longer, but yes, that's a fair statement.
     
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    Didn't the Nets throw a party once Dwight was traded?
     
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    Memphis is holding up free agency for the Clippers, Rockets, and players like Iman Shumpert. Looking at the Grizzlies depth chart and they are overloaded with players, many of whom are older veterans who don't fit their rebuilding roster. Contending team want these veteran players who don't fit with Memphis's timeline. The Grizzlies are delaying waiving their players because they are attempting to trade for more assets. I admire their gumption, but the problem Memphis faces is that they lose trade leverage with each passing day. Smart organizations like the Rockets, Nuggets, and Clippers will likely just wait them out. Eventually the Grizzlies will have to loosened their petty trade demands --petty since the grizzlies already were compensated in prior trades for these same players and now are attempting to double dip -- and do right by these veteran players by waiving them so they can go one with their careers. The Grizzlies are bluffing, and these other organizations are calling their bluff which is causing a delay in free agency for the remaining top free agents and championship contenders alike. The Grizzlies will inevitably buyout Iggy, Howard, and possibly even Solomon Hill.
     
  11. TilmanFinancialWindfall

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    Can anyone think of any player that went from the #1 or #2 player in the NBA to the most hated??? This guy was right next to Lebron as the most favorite player in the NBA before he started trashing Orland and Stan van gundy.

    The first thing any new GM of a ball club do is get rid of Howard, to undo what the previous GM did, who I guess got fired...

    Newiest GM for Wiz:

    "Trading him away was a signal that Sheppard was trying to reset of the Wizards culture."

    According to an interview with Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN, new Wizards GM Tommy Sheppard didn't need much time to move on.

    The Howard deal was "the quickest trade I've ever done in my life," Sheppard told Wojnarowski.
     
  12. dreamshakin

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    Think you just answered your question with lebron. Lebron's popularity was at an all time high before he left Cleveland for the 1st time. Yeah he was criticized for not getting a ring yet, but he was still extremely popular.
     
  13. basketballholic

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    Good points. Here's the rest of the story.

    The Grizzlies have no reason to buy out anybody without picking up assets UNTIL and UNLESS the Thunder and the Heat and the Warriors all get out of the tax. Those 3 teams HAVE TO ESCAPE THE TAX this season.

    Hardly anybody has any cap space to take on salary. The Hawks have about 7 million left. Everybody else is over. And Dallas has a nice trade exception left. That is about it.

    Here is the complete list of outstanding traded player exceptions copied from hoopshype (https://hoopshype.com/salaries/players/) :

    Cleveland Cavaliers

    Amount: $2,760,095
    Expires: 12/9/19

    Amount: $1,544,951
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Amount: $1,512,601
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Dallas Mavericks

    Amount: $1,233,152
    Expires: 1/31/20

    Amount: $11,825,694
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Detroit Pistons

    Amount: $2,500,000
    Expires: 2/6/20

    Amount: $1,140,682
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Golden State Warriors

    Amount: $17,185,185
    Expires: 7/7/20

    Amount: $1,597,100
    Expires: 7/8/20

    Amount: $1,597,100
    Expires: 7/8/20

    Houston Rockets

    Amount: $1,544,951
    Expires: 8/2/19

    Amount: $2,584,136
    Expires: 9/2/19

    Amount: $955,172
    Expires: 1/7/20

    Amount: $1,512,601
    Expires: 1/22/20

    Amount: $3,620,016
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Amount: $3,206,160
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Amount: $1,544,951
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Amount: $1,512,601
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Amount: $1,621,415
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Memphis Grizzlies

    Amount: $1,512,601
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Amount: $3,126,308
    Expires: 7/6/20

    Amount: $3,440,000
    Expires: 7/7/20

    Amount: $1,416,852
    Expires: 7/7/20

    Amount: $4,736,842
    Expires: 7/8/20

    Miami Heat

    Amount: $6,270,000
    Expires: 2/6/20


    Oklahoma City Thunder

    Amount: $6,930,269
    Expires: 7/25/19

    Amount: $1,544,951
    Expires: 2/3/20

    Amount: $9,346,153
    Expires: 7/8/20

    Amount: $10,389,997
    Expires: 7/10/20

    Portland Trail Blazers

    Amount: $1,790,993
    Expires: 7/8/20

    Toronto Raptors

    Amount: $1,569,360
    Expires: 2/6/20

    Amount: $1,512,601
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Amount: $2,536,898
    Expires: 2/7/20

    Washington Wizards

    Amount: $3,386,480
    Expires: 12/9/19

    Amount: $5,000,000
    Expires: 7/7/20


    I took the liberty of removing the smaller unusable TPE's in hoopshype's list.

    Now keeping in mind also that the Cavs have to stay out of the tax and they're $2.8 million from it, and Detroit is right at the tax line and most likely looking at a rebuild, Portland is deep in the tax, and Washington is right below the tax line unless they drop 3 nonguaranteed deals, there is going to be a premium placed on helping any of those 3 teams (GSW, OKC, and MIA) out of the tax.

    And to get them out of the tax will likely involve using the 125% or the 175% rule for teams that are $4 million or more below the tax line so they can take on salary without going into the tax themselves.

    In that environment...... the Grizzlies have every reason to keep holding their expiring contracts without buying anybody out. There's no reason for them to buy anybody out when they can possibly flip those expiring contracts for assets from one or more of GSW, OKC, MIA.

    That's why we're in a holding pattern here with buyouts and it's not likely to change until the trade deadline in February.
     
    #93 basketballholic, Jul 23, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2019
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