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Draft Position vs Winning Pct

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Air Langhi, Jan 26, 2012.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Based on thread CH did, I wrote a program to compare the avg draft position of each team vs the amounts of wins they had.

    The formula is the following:
    Code:
                    int minutes = 0;
                    int draft_minutes = 0;
    
                    foreach (var player_draft in player_sal)
                    {
                        draft_minutes += player_draft.draftpos * player_draft.mp;
                        minutes += player_draft.mp;
                    }
    
                    double avg_draft = (double) draft_minutes/ (double) minutes;
    
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    <tr class="tableizer-firstrow"><th>Team</th><th>win</th><th>loss</th><th>avg draft</th><th>win pct</th></tr> <tr><td>Denver Nuggets</td><td>13</td><td>5</td><td>21.02345173</td><td>72.22222222</td></tr> <tr><td>Miami Heat</td><td>13</td><td>5</td><td>25.45792079</td><td>72.22222222</td></tr> <tr><td>San Antonio Spurs</td><td>12</td><td>7</td><td>27.35184382</td><td>63.15789474</td></tr> <tr><td>Philadelphia 76ers</td><td>12</td><td>6</td><td>17.23976207</td><td>66.66666667</td></tr> <tr><td>Oklahoma City Thunder</td><td>15</td><td>3</td><td>13.72506364</td><td>83.33333333</td></tr> <tr><td>Houston Rockets</td><td>10</td><td>8</td><td>30.69503869</td><td>55.55555556</td></tr> <tr><td>Atlanta Hawks</td><td>13</td><td>6</td><td>20.95728697</td><td>68.42105263</td></tr> <tr><td>Los Angeles Clippers</td><td>9</td><td>6</td><td>20.9095422</td><td>60</td></tr> <tr><td>Utah Jazz</td><td>10</td><td>6</td><td>25.18365262</td><td>62.5</td></tr> <tr><td>Portland Trail Blazers</td><td>11</td><td>8</td><td>19.58495093</td><td>57.89473684</td></tr> <tr><td>Chicago Bulls</td><td>16</td><td>4</td><td>23.19920817</td><td>80</td></tr> <tr><td>Minnesota Timberwolves</td><td>8</td><td>10</td><td>14.72516786</td><td>44.44444444</td></tr> <tr><td>Golden State Warriors</td><td>6</td><td>11</td><td>22.90204678</td><td>35.29411765</td></tr> <tr><td>Memphis Grizzlies</td><td>10</td><td>7</td><td>25.06913459</td><td>58.82352941</td></tr> <tr><td>Orlando Magic</td><td>12</td><td>5</td><td>17.36945933</td><td>70.58823529</td></tr> <tr><td>New York Knicks</td><td>7</td><td>11</td><td>19.90572082</td><td>38.88888889</td></tr> <tr><td>Cleveland Cavaliers</td><td>7</td><td>10</td><td>29.36662607</td><td>41.17647059</td></tr> <tr><td>Milwaukee Bucks</td><td>7</td><td>10</td><td>20.54935097</td><td>41.17647059</td></tr> <tr><td>Indiana Pacers</td><td>12</td><td>5</td><td>19.97442144</td><td>70.58823529</td></tr> <tr><td>Phoenix Suns</td><td>6</td><td>11</td><td>23.96813725</td><td>35.29411765</td></tr> <tr><td>Los Angeles Lakers</td><td>11</td><td>8</td><td>21.33282443</td><td>57.89473684</td></tr> <tr><td>New Jersey Nets</td><td>6</td><td>13</td><td>25.95942408</td><td>31.57894737</td></tr> <tr><td>Dallas Mavericks</td><td>11</td><td>8</td><td>13.8966652</td><td>57.89473684</td></tr> <tr><td>Sacramento Kings</td><td>6</td><td>13</td><td>22.38719579</td><td>31.57894737</td></tr> <tr><td>Boston Celtics</td><td>7</td><td>9</td><td>20.28645833</td><td>43.75</td></tr> <tr><td>Charlotte Bobcats</td><td>3</td><td>16</td><td>19.92061069</td><td>15.78947368</td></tr> <tr><td>Washington Wizards</td><td>3</td><td>15</td><td>21.88374247</td><td>16.66666667</td></tr> <tr><td>New Orleans Hornets</td><td>3</td><td>15</td><td>21.89208468</td><td>16.66666667</td></tr> <tr><td>Toronto Raptors</td><td>6</td><td>13</td><td>30.78806941</td><td>31.57894737</td></tr> <tr><td>Detroit Pistons</td><td>4</td><td>15</td><td>24.34005701</td><td>21.05263158</td></tr></table>

    There doesn't seem to be any real correlation between the two.
     
    #1 Air Langhi, Jan 26, 2012
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  2. da_juice

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    Wow. Awesome, thanks. This is what I asked about
     
  3. Carl Herrera

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    This is awesome. Would you be able to correlate PER to draft position as well?
     
  5. heypartner

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    Where? Can you post your question. I'm not following something here. Maybe it is because Air Langhi's variable names are odd for the stated problem.

    And I don't know what the results are supposed to mean. "Ave Draft Pos" over the course of the franchise? Or a prediction for the next draft. confused. What does "ave draft pos" mean?
     
  6. Air Langhi

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    So what I did was I wrote a program that went through every roster, and for each player find their draft position and the amount of minutes they played. Take those two values and multiply them together. Then sum those values and finally divide them by the total minutes for that particular team.
     
  7. heypartner

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    Oh, ave draft position for each player as an average for the team? So, the premise you were testing was that the teams with lowest draft pos ave should have better winnning % now? Spurs probably have the highest ave draft pos.

    That doesn't sound right, based on you only need 1 superstar pick...to take off...and that 1 superstar pick will ruin your ave draft pos, because he made you a winner.

    Plus, trading your #1 leaves you with 2nd rounders. Albeit, the trade would land you a player with a 1st round draft position most likely.

    Yeah, I don't see any correlation.
     
  8. Easy

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    All I observe is that the Rockets is a close second of having the lowest draft position behind Toronto.

    But the problem is, some high draftees are still undeveloped, and their teams are usually bad enough in recent history to be able to draft them. So these teams would have high draft positions but low performances.
     
  9. Carl Herrera

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    Toronto beat us by having Bargnani (#1) out for a good chunk of the season so far (and more to come) and playing a lot of Calderon (undrafted) and Amir Johnson (late 2nd rounder).
     

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