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Does Vince Carter,Grant Hill,Rasheed Wallace,Tracy Mcgrady and Allen Iverson deserve to be HOF

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by mr. 13 in 33, Dec 12, 2012.

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  1. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    no quit dodging the truth like all the tofs do.

    he never played in a second round game of a playoff series.

    you know that right? NEVER.

    the only thing he accomplished was scoring titles and all star appearances.
     
    #41 tinman, Dec 12, 2012
  2. tinman

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    But the Bucks probably will retire his jersey.

    TOFs need to brush up on their NBA history.
     
    #42 tinman, Dec 12, 2012
  3. NL Rocket

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    Everybody's getting into the Hall of Fame, it's getting ridiculous. Nobody deserves it except for Iverson, because he lead his team to the finals and did some amazing things for a guy his size. He's not likeable and lacked the work ethic and right mentality but numbers don't lie, tell that to Sheed too. Grant Hill a maybe, but the rest: HELL NO!! Scoring and dunking doesn't equal Hall of Fame.
     
    #43 NL Rocket, Dec 12, 2012
  4. Shakee

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    The only point I was trying to make was that there are players in with less accomplishments.

    I know the history, the bucks, sonics, celtics, or heat aren't retiring his jersey. Milwaukee. Maybe
     
    #44 Shakee, Dec 12, 2012
  5. tinman

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    He played the majority of his prime years there. Ray Allen left the Bucks on good terms. He didn't burn any bridges or get booed by the fans like Tracy.
     
    #45 tinman, Dec 12, 2012
  6. LCAhmed

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    TMAC
    19.6ppg
    5.6rpg
    4.4apg
    0.9bpg
    1.2spg

    vs HOF
    David Thompson
    22.1 ppg
    3.2apg
    3.8rpg
    0.8bpg
    0.9spg
     
    #46 LCAhmed, Dec 12, 2012
  7. tinman

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    According to Basketball Reference, Iverson is a sure fire hall of famer.

    Vince Carter
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cartevi01.html
    Hall of Fame Probability
    Active 0.799 (12)
    Career 0.799 (74)

    Grant Hill
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hillgr01.html
    Hall of Fame Probability
    Active 0.407 (21)
    Career 0.407 (119)

    Rasheed Wallace
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallara01.html
    Hall of Fame Probability
    Active 0.048 (34)
    Career 0.048 (208)

    Tmac
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgratr01.html
    Hall of Fame Probability
    Active 0.582 (18)
    Career 0.582 (100)

    Iverson
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/iversal01.html
    Hall of Fame Probability
    Career 0.998 (24)
     
    #47 tinman, Dec 12, 2012
  8. tinman

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    David Thompson

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Thompson_(basketball)#Professional_career

    ABA/NBA highlights

    The Sporting News ABA Rookie of the Year (1976)
    ABA Rookie of the Year (1976)
    All-ABA (1976)
    MVP, 1976 ABA All-Star Game
    Competed in first ever slam dunk contest during half time of the 1976 ABA All-Star Game, eventually taking second to Julius Erving
    All-NBA First Team (1977, 1978)
    Four-time NBA All-Star
    MVP, 1979 NBA All-Star Game
    Only player in history named MVP of both the ABA and NBA All-Star Games
    Scored a career-high 73 points against Detroit (April 9, 1978)
    One of only 20 NBA players to have scored 60 or more points in a game.
    Scored a then-NBA record 32 points in the second quarter against Detroit Pistons, a record that was broken by George Gervin (33 against New Orleans Jazz on the same day ) when Gervin won the 1978 scoring title with a 63-point output
    The Nuggets retired his jersey number 33 (Nov. 2, 1992)
    Colorado Professional Athlete of the Year (1977)
    Scored 2,158 points (26.0 ppg) in the ABA
    Scored 11,264 points (22.1 ppg) in the NBA
    Atlanta's first pick in the 1975 NBA draft (and first pick overall)
    Virginia's first pick in the 1975 ABA draft
     
    #48 tinman, Dec 12, 2012
  9. rolyat93

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    If you were the best ever at something, you should be in the hall. Vince was the best dunker ever, so he should be in.

    Iverson as well, Grant Hill should be in but he's relying heavily on his great NCAA career. No to TMac & Sheed.
     
    #49 rolyat93, Dec 12, 2012
  10. J Sizzle

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    McGrady - No
    Iverson - Yes
    Sheed - HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLL NO
    Grant Hill - No
    Vince Carter - Tentatively no
     
    #50 J Sizzle, Dec 12, 2012
  11. LCAhmed

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    The real question should be will Robert Horry make the HOF?
     
    #51 LCAhmed, Dec 12, 2012
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    *Do . . .
     
    #52 acsorelle4, Dec 12, 2012
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    Iverson - in.

    Vince - He's borderline. If its Hall of FAME, then Vince has the FAME part big time.

    McGrady - no. He'd be the most talented guy to not be in probably. How can you go from being as good as Kobe, being the best SF in the league, to an afterthought in history? There's the McGrady effect for you.

    Hill - "Hill" naw he aint in. Great guy and great college career though. (Hill's only advanced past the 1st round once, in 2010)

    Rasheed - no way
     
    #53 Shroopy2, Dec 12, 2012
  14. juicystream

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    Hill? Yes (Don't forget college counts)
    Iverson? Yes
    Wallace? No
    McGrady? No
    Carter? Maybe (He was the leading scorer for an Olympic Gold Medal winner)
     
    #54 juicystream, Dec 12, 2012
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    Iverson, Hill: Yes.

    McGrady, Carter, Sheed: No.
     
    #55 rimrocker, Dec 12, 2012
  16. BeeBeard

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    If a consummate crotch-kicker like Reggie Miller made it based on pissing off Spike Lee, to go with a shady Olympic appearance and some NBA third team honors, then there is absolutely no reason Vince Carter shouldn't.

    Hell, let everyone in. Chris Dudley for HOF candidate. Eddie House, your time is now.
     
    #56 BeeBeard, Dec 12, 2012
  17. plutoblue11

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    That would've been a dynamic duo for the ages. I feel like both players had the versatility, explosive scoring ability, and unselfishness to wreck alot of havoc on the league. As far as great NBA wings go, I think it would've been one of the best in NBA history, outside of Jordan/Pippen, Wade/LeBron, Havilcek/White, and etc.
     
    #57 plutoblue11, Dec 12, 2012
  18. Jontro

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    Yes, to all of them.

    The NBA HOF is a joke anyway.
     
    #58 Jontro, Dec 12, 2012
  19. Deji McGever

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    AI doesn't deserve to be on this list. He's in. The guy was phenomenal.
    Hill should get on NCAA credentials.

    The rest are debatable, but I'd lean towards "no."
     
    #59 Deji McGever, Dec 12, 2012
  20. c1utchfan925

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    Only Iverson I think deserves the HOF nod.
     
    #60 c1utchfan925, Dec 12, 2012
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