We need to draft a QB. Savage may or may not pan out but a QB needs to be drafted with the second round pick. Go Tackle in the first.
The difference of course being that you can either have sunk cost and nothing or you can have sunk cost and keep the player around to see if you can do as well with them as other coaches have. Also knowing that QB's take a long time to pick up BOB's system, do you really want to go into next season with just Tom Savage and a rookie? That's a recipe for disaster. What you are advocating is change for the sake of change. This is a very bad QB class and the Texans won't be wasting their first rounder on a bad QB so you basically just want them to pick someone else to say that they picked another QB.....you know, exactly what the Browns do every year. Is that not EXACTLY what you are calling for? You want a new guy just to have a new guy. You want a snap judgement on not only Osweiler, but apparently Savage as well and you want a new guy to throw to the wolves just to have a new guy. Also, it's kind of funny that your idea of "mediocrity" is a season where the team is 9-6 after 15 games while missing key players all over the place including the best defensive player in the game. With those players healthy, the team almost certainly is a 12 or 13 win team this season even with exactly the same QB play. I understand that fans would rather have a team built around a QB like New England, but unless the Texans miracle their way into Tom Brady like the Patriots did, that simply isn't going to happen. If your plan for the future is to keep drafting QB's every year hoping to eventually miracle your way into Tom Brady.....well that makes you the Browns. The Texans instead built up a defense and a running game so that they can compete no matter what. Hell, if healthy they could even win like the Seahawks or Broncos did. It's a proven path to success, one of very few in the NFL. You have the "miracle your way into a QB" teams, and the teams that built a stellar defense and run game. Look at all of the recent SB winners, they fit one of those two categories.
This is the wrong approach, IMO. You're basically saying get whatever QB is available in the 2nd - but most QBs fail so you're setting yourself up to just rely on luck. The approach should be that you identify the QB you think has the best chance of success or highest upside or whatever you're aiming for. And then you do what is needed to draft that specific guy (assuming you can). Don't just take your 2nd or 3rd choice because that's who happened to be available in a particular round.
Taking a QB doesn't prevent you from keeping Brock and Savage. There is no rule only allowing a team to have 2 QBs. Again, see New England. QB is the position that has held this team back all year - it's weird that you are always opposed to improving the one position that is weakest and also most vital to a team. You also seem to be under the misguided notion that the Broncos coaches thought highly of Osweiller. They benched him for a partly injured, noodle-armed Peyton Manning, and let him go this offseason. This is a league where no QB ever leaves a team if the team really wants him, so that tells you just how interested the Broncos really were in holding onto him. So admit that it takes a while for a QB to develop, but don't want to ever actually invest in developing one. Basically, if Savage and Brock sucks, you have no backup plan and you've wasted not just next year but the year after as well, since they would then have a 1st year QB in the system. No, they aren't a 12 win team if healthy. This team is the very definition of mediocre. They are 9-6 in mediocre division, with the luxury of a schedule that involved playing the most mediocre NFC division. They have a negative point differential and one of the worst offenses in football. While they haven't been getting blown out recently, they also haven't beaten a team by more than 7 points since the first game of the season. Sagarin's computer rankings - which looks at stats and takes out all the human bias - have the Texans as the 25th best team in football. As far as injuries, ALL teams have injuries, many of them significant. If you need the Texans to be 100% healthy to be above mediocre, that's a problem because it's not going to happen.
If you don't think there's anyone likely to be good, then you don't draft one. If that happens here and there, that's fair. If you go several drafts without being able to identify a single potentially good QB - and it turns out that some of those QBs turn out to be good - then you need to fire whoever's deciding that none of them are going to be good.
LOL, oh wow. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree because 1. I don't think you truly understand what the definition of "mediocre" is and 2. How you could possibly think that this team couldn't add a few more wins if fully healthy.....including adding the best defensive player in the NFL is beyond me.
Wins are wins... There are plenty of coaches that would have lost 13+ games these past two season with our roster. Don't get me wrong the offense should be and has to be better for us to truly compete but given what he's been working with BOB has done damn good. We won two division titles with 6 different QBs the best of which was Brian freaking Hoyer, that is incredible.
I don't think there's a QB they can draft in the first 2 rounds. Kiser and Trubisky would go before our pick. Watson doesn't fit the system. And I don't really think Kaaya, Webb, or Mahomes are a 2nd round QB's. Maybe we pick one up in the 3rd.
Watson reminds me of Mcnabb. Bob should adjust his system because the qbs he's picked are average at best
I had them 11-5. I didn't think the Raiders game would turn out to be played in Apocalyptic wasteland where the refs feel they don't have to obey the rules. Then, Brock gave away the San Diego game. That would have been 12-4 and let's not forget that it wasn't until JJo went down and Charles James had to play significantly that Rodgers managed to g0 8/10 for 130 yards. up until then he was getting out dueled. So that's 13-3 with health and this one guy who wears 90 didn't play. It's been quite spectacular what they've done sans watt, johnson, simon, newton and the cadaver of Allen suiting up as guard. With more experience/continuity on offense this team can play with the best of them. Quite ridiculous to call them mediocre with everything they've had to overcome.
A "few wins" is a lot in the NFL. That's the difference between a good and mediocre QB, but that's the only position that has that kind of impact. We've seen it multiple times now with Watt, Clowney, and Mario Williams injuries - the defense just doesn't change that much. It has nothing to do with the players - it's that any single non-QB player just doesn't have that kind of impact. On top of that, you're assuming a player like JJ Watt will be the same as pre-injury. Back injuries are tricky things, as we saw the last time he came back. Beyond that, if you start playing the injury card, you have to do it for other teams too. Do they win today if Mariota is healthy? Do they win vs KC if they have a full-strength Jamaal Charles? Do they beat the Colts if they aren't missing some of their key defensive players? Etc. Yes, maybe in a league where the Texans are 100% healthy and the rest of the NFL has normal injuries, they can win 12 games. It doesn't make them anything more than mediocre.
So basically, if a terrible Texans player sucks and costs them the game, you just pretend they should have won it? Then should they have lost the Cinci game since Bullock shouldn't have missed an easy field goal and gave the game away? Should they have lost some of the Jags games because Bortles was terrible? If you're having to twist loops to give them potential wins, something is wrong with the analysis. Bottom line is they had the lost some games they've had 10 one-possession games (7-3). That means they had several games they could easily have won, and several they could have easily lost. That's true of all teams, not just the Texans.
Agreed, it just suggests that the person calling them "mediocre" doesn't actually know what the word means.
Do you have faith in Case Keenum? Do you have faith in Ryan Fitzpatrick? Do you have faith in Brian Hoyer? Do you have faith in Ryan Mallett? Do you have faith in TJ Yates? Do you have faith in Brandon Weeden? Do you have faith in Brock Osweiler? Do you have faith in Tom Savage? Do you have faith in the Texans finding a franchise quarterback?
