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[2017 NFL Draft/1-12] Deshaun Watson

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Apr 27, 2017.

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Do you like the decision to trade up & select Deshaun Watson?

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  1. raining threes

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    I like DW4 as much as the next guy, but this post isn't true.

    They are very close talentwise. Take a close look at what Wentz did last season.
     
  2. raining threes

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    Better than the GOAT

    There's a fan for you. We can only hope your right. I think a 6 game sample size no matter how great it was is too small to make posts like this. Many a QB has flamed out after a hot start. I'm not saying this is going to happen to DW4 but saying he's going to be better than Brady GOAT when he's coming off a second ACL is crazy. IMHO
     
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    Sherm always speaks the truth.
     
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    Yeah Watson is a prime regression candidate, but if he manages to have a full season worth of the magic he had in his 6 game sample last year then that kind of talk will no longer be crazy.....I'm just not sure how likely that is.
     
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    DW4 needs to do it for 15 years to be in the same company as Brady. In no way should this be taken as a slight at DW4.
     
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    Well sure, but my point was that you can start to make those comparisons if he does it a full season. Ultimately it would take many, many more seasons before he would catch up to the legacy of a Brady or Peyton Manning, but you can start to say things before that point. IMO it's too soon now, but a year from now it might not be if by some miracle he keeps up the pace of last season for an entire healthy season.
     
  9. YaoMing#1

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    I think he’ll be just fine.

    That guy is a stud.

    Just like Watson you just watch and see there great.

    The numbers just confirm it.
     
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  10. SmoothOperator

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    Have any of the stats whizzes pulled a list of comparable 6 games streaks all time?

    I'd be curious to see how often it's been done, and who's on the list. It wouldn't surprise me to see a 6 game hot streak from the likes of Cutler, Eli Manning, and such.
     
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  11. Nimo

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    It's worse than you think
    https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...ble-6-game-stretches-to-cowboys-dak-prescott/
    (I know its comparing to Dak Prescott's six game stretch but some of these are amazing. Just look at the stats)
    1. Brian Griese (2000)
    In Griese’s second season, he started off even hotter than what Prescott has. Griese passed for 1,720 yards with 14 touchdowns against a single interception, with a 63.1 completion percentage and a 8.0 ANY/A. He ended up starting 10 games that year and going 7-3, leading the league in passer rating at 102.9. However he never matched a stretch like that again in his career, and ended up with a barely above water career 119:99 touchdown-to-interception ratio. His career ANY/A was just 5.37.

    2. Matt Schaub (2009)
    Schaub’s third season at the helm of the Houston Texans started off insanely hot. He passed for 1,810 yards with 14 touchdown passes against five interceptions. His 65.3 percent completions earned him a passer rating of 102.7 over that stretch with a ANY/A of 7.9. Schaub would have a couple good stretches over the rest of his career, but nothing came close to how he performed out the gate in 2009.

    3. Kyle Orton (2009)
    Schaub wasn’t the only one who started 2009 on fire. Orton did the same for Chicago, passing for 1,465 yards with nine scoring throws and just one interception. 63.9 completion percentage led to 100.1 passer rating and an ANY/A of 7.6. Those numbers far outweighed the player Orton settled into being, a career passer rating of just 81.2 and ANY/A of just 5.5 per dropback.

    4. Robert Griffin III (2012)
    Griffin’s top stretch came in his rookie year, but at the end of the season. In this frame, as well as in his stats, he is the closest comparison statistically. Regardless, he stands as a very precautionary tale. From games 10-16 Griffin threw 12 touchdown passes against just two interceptions, completing 65.8 percent of his throws for 1,322 yards. His passer rating of 114.0 during this stretch is unbelievable. Griffin’s ANY/A was a mind-boggling 8.38. It should be noted that Griffin’s first major injury occurred during this stretch.

    Griffin’s stats have bottomed out since then. He hasn’t been able to achieve a ANY/A over 6.0 since and has a 20:19 touchdown-to-interception ratio since the 2013 season.

    5. Brian Hoyer (2015)
    Hoyer might not belong on this list as he seems to be undervalued by the league. After the 2014 season, Hoyer took his talents from Cleveland to Houston, where he settled in nicely as the Texans starter. During one particular six-game stretch he was highly impressive. From October 18 through December 12, Hoyer went 129 out of 212 for 1,422 yards and 13 touchdown passes against just four picks. His passer rating was just 93.3 though and his ANY/A was just 6.3 so outside his TD:INT ratio, he didn’t stray too far from his career averages of a career 84.8 passer rating and 6.22 ANY/A.

    He’s been on terrible teams and excelled statistically at each stop, and actually winning in Cleveland. No one wins in Cleveland.

    6. Derek Anderson (2007)
    Cleveland again. Anderson started but took over for good in the second game of 2007 when he passed for five scores. Later that year, he had an incredible six-game stretch where he completed 62.6 percent of his passes (129 for 206) for 1,507 yards, 11 touchdowns and three interceptions. His passer rating was 96.5 and ANY/A was 7.44. His four-year career in Cleveland ended with an ANY/A of just 4.88. He has since become a journeyman with a career passer rating of 76.1 – nowhere near the heights he reached in 2007.
     
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    [QUOTE="2. Matt Schaub (2009)
    Schaub’s third season at the helm of the Houston Texans started off insanely hot. He passed for 1,810 yards with 14 touchdown passes against five interceptions. His 65.3 percent completions earned him a passer rating of 102.7 over that stretch with a ANY/A of 7.9. Schaub would have a couple good stretches over the rest of his career, but nothing came close to how he performed out the gate in 2009.[/QUOTE]

    The orginal Matty Ice lol.

    Schaub was pretty damn good before he had the foot injury.

    He was never quite the same after that.

    The was the Texans year to really make a deep run had he not been lost for the season.

    It was one of the few were foster stayed healthy and was available for the playoffs (he balled out that playoffs)

    I miss foster it was hella cool having/watching one of those top flight ted gurley leveon bell caliber RB.

    Him and AP were hands down the best in the game for that 3 year run. His impact was thru the roof.
     
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    Lazy comparison
     
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    Agree, his best comparison from size, athleticism and ability standpoint is young Aaron Rodgers. Which is saying something. He’s not there yet but he has the potential to be very similar.
     
  16. Fulgore

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    Here we go again. Joe shut the hell up
     
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    But also said this

     
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    I think a young Joe Theismann is a good comparison for DW4 when it comes to style of play.
     
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