1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Derrick Rose sent to the Knicks

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by RocketsPimp, Jun 22, 2016.

  1. Le$$

    Le$$ Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2016
    Messages:
    4,015
    Likes Received:
    3,292
    Yea makes sense with Rose signing. Finally the knicks are not gonna completely suck anymore. Playoffs in the future.
     
  2. HayesIsBack

    HayesIsBack Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2015
    Messages:
    1,975
    Likes Received:
    337
    PJ definitely abandoning the triangle with Rose signing
     
  3. craguin

    craguin Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    1,899
    Likes Received:
    1,828
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Special <a href="https://twitter.com/TheVertical">@TheVertical</a> Pod on the Derrick Rose trade: <a href="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania">@ShamsCharania</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/NickDePaula">@NickDePaula</a> join me. <a href="https://t.co/1dykBHmSBJ">https://t.co/1dykBHmSBJ</a></p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/745769067294883840">June 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  4. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,754
    Likes Received:
    156,984
  5. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    23,717
    Likes Received:
    15,064
    The Bulls are a ****ed up organization. Neck and neck with the Rockets front office
     
  6. lionaire

    lionaire Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    5,717
    Likes Received:
    7,624
    What's the Bulls cap situation now?
     
  7. Baqui99

    Baqui99 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2000
    Messages:
    11,493
    Likes Received:
    1,230
    Rose couldn't even lead his team to the playoffs in the East
     
  8. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    54,358
    Likes Received:
    113,313
    Sure Jimmy.... You two couldn't stand each other last year.
     
  9. glimmertwins

    glimmertwins Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2006
    Messages:
    5,930
    Likes Received:
    4,262
    Porzingis will be a stud, but let's be clear - he is not there yet. Bringing in a strong leader like Rose in the short term is a smart move to surround KP with. As Rose and Melo wind down their playing careers, Kristaps will just start to be rounding into his prime. Until that happens, they can still be somewhat competitive and get some playoff experience under their belts(assuming Phil gets the coaching situation straightened out) which will only help KP's development.

    Making KP the star today and building around him with lesser players, is just going to make it harder for him to grow and the Knicks aren't getting a high draft pick with anything on that roster.

    It's a shame Isiah traded away all those draft picks - set their rebuild back for years.
     
  10. hvic

    hvic Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2008
    Messages:
    2,246
    Likes Received:
    483
    its not that hard to make the playoffs in the east. look at charlotte
     
  11. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    90,050
    Likes Received:
    43,362
    NY does not deserve Rose.....

    Rose is not the player anymore but they could have at least unloaded him in the West.
     
  12. roslolian

    roslolian Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    24,574
    Likes Received:
    14,801
    Not sure why people are so down on this deal, it's a win-win for both teams.

    NYC can't tank and rebuild, they have the most expensive tickets and if Rose is healthy then its pretty much a sweet rebuild from them they already have their franchise player in Porzingis anyway so they just need people who can spice it up while he is still maturing. Rose is that perfect stop gap alongside Melo and if Rose bombs his contract is expiring in a year, that means they can collect a high pick then let him go. Losing Rolo isnt a big deal, 14M for him is decent but not a bargain, that's pretty much market value so you can replace him with a similar player at that amount, just offer Festus 12M PER and voila there you go.

    For the Bulls, this is a good way to cut salaries and maybe just rebuild around Butler.
     
  13. CantGoLeft

    CantGoLeft Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2012
    Messages:
    982
    Likes Received:
    31
    It's bad for the Knicks because they needed a pass first PG who could also score when needed and wasn't a horrible defender. Obviously not many of them around, but they didn't need a shoot first PG(higher FGA per 100 pos than Melo) low efficiency(his TS% was #12 on Bulls, random faq 16 of 17 guys on the Hornets roster had a higher TS% than Rose) taking touches away from Porzingis.

    You want to build around Porzingis with young guys and a few blue collar guys like Lopez who don't put up big numbers but help with team chemistry by doing the little things like setting screens and hustling on D. You don't need a guy who is in a contract year that was already focused on free agency a year ago screwing the future up.

    Phil Jackson was going to do a slow rebuild but he panicked because the NY fan base and media were starting to turn up the heat. Rose had it easy in Chicago because he was a home town hero and biggest star since MJ. Dude is going to get roasted in NY if he doesn't do well.
     
  14. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    26,392
    Likes Received:
    29,573
    Melo-Dwight-Rose seems like the most New York thing possible, and it is possible.
     
  15. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2001
    Messages:
    19,116
    Likes Received:
    20,867
    The Knicks love past-their-prime PGs

    Marbury
    Francis
    Rose
     
  16. Caesar

    Caesar Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2014
    Messages:
    6,230
    Likes Received:
    6,247
    Kidd
    Penny
     
  17. PhiSlammaJamma

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 1999
    Messages:
    28,780
    Likes Received:
    7,057
    I like it for the Knicks. Everything to gain, nothing to lose. More Attractive to Free Agents on paper. Potential on the court. More attractive to the fans, except for those depressed nuts. Cap space. They did not lose any difference makers.
     
  18. rm365

    rm365 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2003
    Messages:
    1,497
    Likes Received:
    78
    Bingo. The Knicks made a low risk trade and gave up hardly anything. If Rose somehow stays healthy it will have been a good trade.

    I understand people criticizing because of the Knicks history of bad trades but this one's different.
     
  19. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,754
    Likes Received:
    156,984
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"> No.25 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Knicks?src=hash">#Knicks</a> <a href="https://t.co/MKoxdc3Oye">pic.twitter.com/MKoxdc3Oye</a></p>&mdash; NEW YORK KNICKS (@nyknicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/nyknicks/status/746019030109126656">June 23, 2016</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  20. houseofglass21

    Joined:
    May 11, 2009
    Messages:
    1,741
    Likes Received:
    165
    Real reason for the trade...??

    "Newest Knick Derrick Rose, 27, mired in scandal as rape trial looms

    http://dailym.ai/28OJ4dj "
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now