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Daryl Morey

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Joe Smith, Feb 9, 2020.

  1. Joe Smith

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    James Harden, Trevor Ariza (old), Clint Capela (overrated), Chris Paul (old), Tucker (old), Eric Gordon (inconsistent - especially in games 6 and 7 seems to disappear) - hardly top 3 teams of the last 10 years. Only one stud - James Harden - a batman in a Chris Paul already on the downswing in his career - wasn't even an all-star that year. They had good chemistry, and they were gritty, but not a great roster construction by any means. No playable depth, inconsistent, streaky shooters, and weak minded players like CC.
     
  2. amaru

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    Would you have posted this if the 3pt prayer hadn’t gone in?
     
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    Just go away
     
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  4. Joe Smith

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    Not if your main job as GM is to build a roster full of players that fit your analytic strategy. That is a complete failure as a GM. How about drafting analytic players like Malcolm Brogdon, the perfect fit next to JH. You know, your actual job as a GM.
     
  5. BallaDoc

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    You are by far the stupidest poster I have come across. So many things you have stated are factually incorrect and completely out of context. Let me school you just a little bit

    Yao and Tmac couldn’t get to the WCF mainly because of their injuries which Morey had no control of since like you said he inherited them. Yao and tmac played in like one series healthy together against Dallas without juwan Howard. We were always injury riddled be it tmac or Yao or juwan or Rafer. We never had our full complement during that era. The year we got to the WCF we had the most stacked roster of

    Yao/Mutombo/Hayes
    Scola/Landry
    Arrest/battier
    Tmac/wafer/Barry
    Brooks/Lowry

    we assemble this roster because of Morey. That roster healthy goes all the way and whoops d12 and the magic. He’ll if tmac doesn’t torpedo his trade value we’d have carter to get us there. So your first point of Yao and tmac is completely wrong
     
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  6. Joe Smith

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    The Raptors are better than you think, look at their record without Green and Leonard. They beat Milwaukee solidly. They had another gear they could go to in that series if needed. But I don't consider them top three either.
     
  7. DeBeards

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    op wanna say, morey is a GM who keen on 'rob Peter to pay Paul' (1-3 paragraph)
    too long, not yet finished
    i think morey, is a good gambler, a smart gm biz-wise, he can help any owner to maximize their roi and make biz profitable (china issue is an accident)
    As for championship aspect…he not yet prove himself, however he understand owners like either Alexander or tilman, profitable and sustainable is on top of their wish list, champion the second.

    So, one day, should owner were tradable, that would be great.
     
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  8. BallaDoc

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    second point. Morey was not gifted James harden. He had to maintain flexibility because les did not want to tank and accumulate assets that enticed okc to trade with us. Even then okc went to gsw for Klay and Washington first. Morey was the only gm willing to risk it for harden.

    then the picks. Batum was given up for artest which was a huge win and he would’ve stuck around longer had we stayed healthy. Arrest goes on. To be a pivotal role for lal and even got them to the finals by literally cleaning up Kobe’s misses

    Lou will was a fantastic trade at the time and gave the rox some much needed firepower over brewers lifeless body.

    Jeremy Lin was dumped to pick up cap for d12 parsons and bosh. He was let go with picks for that reason. But bosh reneged on his deal and then we lost parsons because of it. But it’s all a moot point since Morey picks up Ariza in the dust and propels us to the WCF.

    morey has to do the trade for Paul to preserve space for luc Richard nene and tucker. The trade was essentially

    trezz/Beverley/Lou will/Dekker

    for

    Paul/lrmam/tucker/nene

    think we won that deal
     
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  9. BallaDoc

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    Ty Lawson pickup was universally thought of as amazing. Everyone alive thought we finally had the backcourt to challenge gsw. Who knee that alcohol was the only reason he was good. But go look at all the threads from his signing. It was looked at very favorably.

    clutchfans is also always wrong about blaming Anderson on morey. Without Anderson we don’t get ego so tha a win in my book. the L is due to broketitta directing us depleting assets and not machining cap/holds/assets in favor of lowering his bill
     
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    You’re a complete idiot and not a true rox fan since your post shows a complete lack of context and knowledge of rox history. Get off our board. You know absolutely nothing.
     
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    They also nearly lost to philly if not for a lucky ass shot
     
  12. BallaDoc

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    It is trash. You literally don’t have your story straight. Get out of heee with your garbage take. I’m sure BSPN would eat up that garbage of a post
     
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    For a short time in 2006 or 2007 he was top 5, MVP candidate.
    And during the injuries, he was Top 20 ish.

    Just did not last long.

    His take that Yao shouldn't have bulked up.

    Everyone bulked up in the past.
    It was unavoidable, the diet here is different than in China, you eat more meat.

    The question was, how much he could have controlled bulking up. Again just hindsight.
     
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    I had a similar take on Morey years ago, thought then Leslie Alexander would hold his potential back.

    You are right that he isn't a good drafter, a decent one with 2nd round picks.

    He is a decent trader though but lately his magic has been off.

    Being a GM is a pretty tough job, give him credit that he had to endure 2 of the worst owners...... He is still standing.

    If he was the Lakers GM, he would have been fired long ago, he is also lucky that this midsized to semi large market wants him bad.

    Overall the combo of Tilman, Morey and MDA isn't an ideal and smart one.
    2 bone heads and 1 nerdy bonehead
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    Pick your poison.
     
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    I really expect better than this from you...dude.
     
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  16. Joe Smith

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    Morey was GM in waiting, had considerable influence on Roster, Dawson's right hand man, Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady both healthy lost in the first round to the Utah Jazz (had home court advantage). There are always excuses, how about doing a little research and being proactive why Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady kept getting injured, all the sudden Steve Nash had good health for the Phoenix Suns because the Suns organization hired a first rate training staff and conditioning program.

    You see what Toronto did for Leonard last year, proactive measures made a difference for him - maybe sacrifice the regular season for the sake of the playoffs for a start.

    This is part of being a GM, the Rockets organization has had bottom of the barrel training, scouting, player development, you name it under Daryl Morey - this is part of being A GM - building an entire first rate organization.

    The first thing I would do for Yao Ming is get him to drop a bunch of weight, he was a lumbering slow guy all the sudden, it was just an injury waiting to happen, guys were stepping on his feet, because he was just standing in the paint like an overweight plodding center, he used to be quick, agile and a finesse player, the Rockets got the brilliant idea to turn him into a power center - bad move. This played into his injury history.

    You cannot keep making excuses for failure, this is a bottom line world.
     
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    Well, for a real contender. MDA and Tilman are the bigger evil.

    Outside of Harden, name a young star player that Morey acquired via draft or trade.

    (I can name Clint, whom you can say has been borderline star quality.)

    At the end of the day, you are running out of options defending him.

    Some also didn't like him standing by HK in his position as GM, it has nothing to do with his job.

    He could have done it privately.
     
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  19. Joe Smith

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    I didn't even get into HK Tweet, but how hard is it to see all the Chinese advertisements in Chinese Symbols at Toyota Center, and not be so self absorbed in your own ego, to realize that making that tweet will hurt your organization? Daryl Morey doesn't think half the time, he just thinks all these lottery draft busts are good like Thomas Robinson, Hasheem Thabeet, Jonny Flynn, Beas, etc.
     
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