The only problem is that he has to prove it and Rockets can give him that chance (actually we already did) given that he can sign a favourable deal. Without the chance to shine, why other teams are willing to throw multiple years of more than min money on a unproven player
you dont know the "rest of roster" will be "playing well" for rest of the season and all stay healthy. Wishful thinking when you have guys like EG and CP.
There are lots of teams looking for depth at the wing but there are even more wings available lol. If House was such a hot commodity why didnt anybody make a play for him at the deadline? The reality is House is just a 9 ppg scorer as a starter playing next to James Harden and MDA's system how many wing players in the world will say they can average the same amount in the same situation? House didnt lose his starter spot because the rest of the team was injured lol, EG right now is averaging 16 ppg as the starter which is better 16 or 9? And then there's his track record he was already cut by 2 previous teams Rox were probably his last chance and then instead of playing ball he wants even more money. Teams do their homework they all want diamonds in the rough but they gotta be thinking they'd rather have a guy who unddrstands his situation then somebody who over estimates himself I mean DMo still out of the NBA for this reason he looked healthy enough in China to me. There are lots of FA wings players next year theres Gerald Green, Nick Stauskas, Wayne Ellington if I were looking for wing depth I would look at those guys first before Danuel House cuz those guys have proven they belong in the NBA for a long period of time and not just 20 games.
Shoulda known better than to **** with Morey when he has a mandate to get under the LT . I feel bad for House , but recognize he def could have handled this A LOT better But in a way the rockets also have shot themselves in a foot .... if you believe House is a good player .
The entire premise is not true. Sift around trade deadline chatter, every team thinks they need another wing. The truth is, the need for wings is increasing. We were ahead of the curve with 3 last season, we're behind with 2 this season. I don't care about the details of my vs your assessment of House, I'm just saying, the worst case scenario is as likely as the best case scenario. The middle of the pack pessimism/realism states he will get a minimum. Any competitor would bet on themselves. You would at your work, I would at mine.
Sorry but you wouldn't be saying this if you were in his place. Business is business as they say and each side can do whatever they feel gives them leverage. But if you shined for 20 games where a team won like 80% of its games to drag itself out of an existential crisis and then the team shelved you even though you asked just to be converted, you would see it as someone choking your career out. 3 years of a minimum contract is not betting yourself. Only a bum would take that without a player option, someone who doesn't believe they can possible earn more than the minimum in 3years even though you just showed you can at least preliminarily do it for 20 games on a contender.
He'll prove it in camp somewhere. A great camp + the short Rockets resume will earn him 1 year guaranteed minimum, and then he'll be free for a bigger contract 1 year sooner than he would be on our shitty contract offer.
House screwed up. No one will offer him more than a minimum contract at the most this offseason if given the opportunity. If he took our deal, he would had made a decent salary for 3 years and as his contract ended he would be at a good age and in a good spot to make some big money that'd set him for life. He was starting for us, we will be a playoff team for a few years- a good example of the route he should have aimed for is Chandler Parsons. Even if Parsons didn't get out of his small deal a year early he would have went on to secure a huge pay day like he did- that small deal and his play drove so much attention to him, how he was 'underpaid'-- his reputation skyrocketed, he got a ton of media attention and all this led to him being vastly vastly overvalued and overpaid. This would have never happened if he didn't take that small deal which no one else was giving, bet on himself and on his ability. Take the starting opportunities given, take advantage of every opportunity and go on to grind & produce for the Rockets for a couple seasons. Just some perceived reasons why he wont be offered more than the full min at most by anyone: Like it or not the GM's will look at his past, see who cut him, see he began doing good in the Dantoni system and then credit that. I don't believe it's true, but scrubs do have a tendency to shine within the Dantoni system... thats the reputation. Reputation is king to GM's. Other GM's will say 'well if he was really that good then Morey would have found a way to sign him longer, we aren't going to risk anymore than a minimum deal for a player that only just now showed potential in a short hot streak'. GM's will justify that a lot of players are good for a short stretch, but they usually hit a 'wall'.. a good example is Gary Clark early in our own season. They wont offer an unproven player in House more than a min deal if they aren't even sure he can be productive through the entire long grind of an NBA season. Going back to the unconvinced/wall argument. Other GM's aren't convinced. He shot 39% for 3 in Houston.. But HOW many teams has he been cut by? HE ONLY SHOT 25% from 3 in his stint with Phoenix.. in the words of other GM's 'We aren't risking any more than a min deal'. I can go on and on. I can make a top 20 list for why he wont get more than a min deal, if that. His smart move was to sign for 3 years (for him 2 would be more ideal, maybe Morey would have budged there).. be handed a starting role starting out, he'd have to play himself into a bench role to lose it.. and proceed to build his cred, build his reputation, exit the deal at a prime age for a big contract that sets him up for life. House blew it guys.. blew it big time. Sucks for him, I really liked/like the lad
That's possible, but there are a lot of IF already, if it's that simple, and he already had his chance, he won't with us at all.
He's betting that he has shown enough to get a minimum deal from someone. I tend to agree with him. The only thing he is really gambling is the 3rd year guaranteed money. Edit: He's also giving up this season's guaranteed money which I guess is around 400K prorated.
You totally missed the point quoted. PBev aint no bum. He took the deal to display he loved playing basketball and also that he loved playing with his crew. They made each other look good and cemented his Narrative while his teammates and staff went to other teams. House didn't read the room and realize he needed more facetime with the league in order to get somewhere in the league. He can keep dreaming about Hassan Whiteside's career track, but he better hope not only that there is a demand for his skills but also a demand for him as a person when other schmoes have already taken his spot. Question is whether he's earned enough respect to have a team take a risk w/ more money and hope House's intent with this play was all business calculation with 0 emotional baggage attached.
Yes. You have to take into consideration, teams will study what happened. He didn't just have 20 games and then stop playing well or get pulled for bad behavior. He never lost his rotation spot, the team were worse defensively without him and he was forcefully shelved. In another team's eyes, this mean maybe he could have 40-50 good games a season. Judging by his style of play - high energy, hard working - he is likely to impress in someone's training camp and this short resume will make him win a spot somewhere. Not to mention he actually seemed to be learning and improving rapidly from the games as a rotation player. There is always a chance the worst can happen to him. But it's not the most likely scenario. He's obviously chosen not to make a decision based on fear of the worst - which incidentally is a terrible way for anyone to live their life. Danuel House's worst case scenario is he will make tons of money (relative to most humans) playing basketball in China/Europe, experiencing a new culture, having fun. He is taking a logical risk. The Rockets are $700k under the cap before filling the gap at backup PF, backup SF/SG and before Capela's incentives kick in. He is actually the best low cost option to them. Plus he knows the system and the players and has succeeded in it.
I'll bet if he ends up a free agent this offseason that he doesn't get a guaranteed contract. A few weeks of getting hot in a superb system doesn't outway all the rest of the futility of his career. Plus turning down a contract and refusing to play in the G league paints him as a knucklehead who's not worth the time. Hope he enjoys China.
But GMS could also see that we were winning at an incredible pace cuz James Harden is on one of the most historical runs in NBA history....
This is a business man. PBev made his choice, and maybe he could've gotten more, maybe not. House doesn't have to prove his love of the game or love of the Rockets, he just has to do what's best for himself and I hope that aligns with what's best for us too. IMO his short resume and a great training camp will earn him a 1 year minimum. That will free him 1 year earlier, and he can then maybe get a slightly bigger contract. He doesn't have to be thinking about Whiteside money to make this decision. He can be looking at a Jonathan Simmons type deal, which is possible for him if he plays a great role on a mediocre team on a minimum contract for a year.
Of course Harden was incredible. But if we sucked while House was playing, it would matter, so if we were good when he was playing, it matters too.
Under BT's (remarkable) scenario card could House get a very late season signing with this year's MLE (for the three years) $ to stay under the (lux) cap + give him a deal fair to Rox and him?
