Stock Market and Music thread (both still active) has more posts. CyberX paging Cyber X reached over 2000 pages.
Victoria's Chief Health Officer has warned that extensive testing in the state is revealing that child-to-child transmission of COVID-19 is "more apparent" than first thought. Professor Brett Sutton said while the instances of transmission among children was not a significant risk, the data was showing that it had a greater prevalence in the community. "Child to child transmission has become more apparent as we have tested more kids," Professor Sutton said. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.9news.com.au/article/a6c62d64-0797-4719-89ad-2e5ba3036cf3 Hopefully someone else has gone ahead and did extensive testing because if we are to expect a study out of this we must wait for at least a month.
Interestingly, there are 4 threads on the first page with 8000+ replies. Those two plus the movie thread were all started in 2009 or earlier, and the top one (Music) is at 12000 replies. This one is at 9000 and was started less than 6 months ago.
This is definitely the most life-changing event of this century by far, and this includes the great recession and 9/11 combined.
We are such a long way away from this. Its sad how we are literally a joke at this point when it comes to handling this virus. Sports with no fans in the stands is comical.
not sure if this has been posted already but a new study on blood sugar and diabetes complications: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-07/d-sla071020.php Study links abnormally high blood sugar with higher risk of death in COVID-19 patients not previously diagnosed with diabetes DIABETOLOGIA New research from Wuhan, China shows that, in patients with COVID-19 but without a previous diagnosis of diabetes, abnormally high blood sugar is associated with more than double the risk of death and also an increased risk of severe complications. The study is by Dr Yang Jin, Union Hospital and Tongji Medical College, Huazhong University of Science and Technology, Wuhan, Hubei, China, and colleagues. The study is published in Diabetologia (the journal of the European Association for the Study of Diabetes [EASD]). Previous studies have established that hyperglycaemia (abnormally high blood sugar) is associated with an elevated risk of mortality in community-acquired pneumonia, stroke, heart attacks, trauma and surgery, among other conditions. A number of studies have also shown links between diabetes and poor outcomes in COVID-19 patients. However, direct correlation between fasting blood glucose (FBG) level at admission to hospital and clinical outcomes of COVID-19 patients without diagnosed diabetes has not been well established. In this new study the authors examined the association between FBG on admission and the 28-day mortality of COVID-19 patients without previously diagnosed diabetes in two hospitals. The retrospective study assessed all consecutive COVID-19 patients with a known outcome at 28-days and FBG measurement at admission from 24 January 2020 to 10 February 2020 in two hospitals based in Wuhan, China. Demographic and clinical data, 28-day outcomes, in-hospital complications and CRB-65 scores of COVID-19 patients in the two hospitals were analysed. The CRB-65 score is an effective measure for assessing the severity of pneumonia and is based on four indicators: level of confusion, respiratory rate (over 30 breaths per min), systolic blood pressure (90 mmHg or less) or diastolic blood pressure (60 mmHg or less), and age (65 years or over). more at the link
Is it me or sports with no fans is totally missing the point of sports? Is it not about the experience? Not just 10 people playing basketball in a clinical environment..
Interesting. However this : "These results indicate that our study included both undiagnosed diabetic patients and non-diabetic patients with hyperglycaemia caused by an acute blood-glucose disorder, since the 29% found in the highest FBG group is much higher than the estimated prevalence of diabetes in the Chinese population at 12%." Is faulty logic isnt it? The prevalence of diabetes in the general Chinese population is irrelevant since the hospitalised patients are not represantive age wise of the general population. Even more with a huge country like China with different diets and genes. They should have compared it with the % of the mean patient age ,59, which is much higher than the average age in China and with the diabetes prevalence in Wuhan. It is a 11 million city not a village so there should be data specific to the locals. I think it is extremely possible that most of them were undiagnosed and unregulated diabetics and pre diabetics before they got infected. Also men 75% more likely to die than women? I think thats more exaggerated than the world data. Way to go chinese women!
Missing the point for whom? Players competed all their lives without fans - in gyms, on playgrounds, etc. Many pro-athletes still do it in the offseason (depending on the sport and feasibiity). Beyond that, money is a major motivator for most players at the professional level - fans are a bonus. Tons of fans never attend a sporting event in person and get tons of enjoyment. Leagues make a huge chunk on their money on TV rights rather than on-site fans.
Yeah I was watching the MLS tournament and thought they need to pipe in crowd noise -- then I realized they were... Ouch.
Just looked up the r****d "After graduating from Yale University and Harvard Law School, DeSantis served as an officer and attorney in the Judge Advocate General's Corps, U.S. Navy (JAG)." How? I thought he must have been a high school dropout. Did he buy his diplomas? Hard to believe an educated person like that could have the IQ of a dead squirel. Your governor Abott is an attorney too but at least he has basic human intelligence.
So its cool to use the word r****d now? Im in Florida and I have not been to bothered by DeSantis measures. He has left it up to the counties to decide. What your sources are largely not telling you is that all the major areas have already passed measures for masks. Florida is doing a decent job at educating people. They are pushing the 3C's that many other countries are pushing. Avoid: Closed spaces with poor ventilation Crowded places with many people nearby Close Contact settings such as close range convos Americans are just not caring. Quite a bit of it is the lack of understanding on how the virus works. What has mainly been pushed is wearing masks and staying 6' apart ... never mind every 6' marker is exactly 6' apart.... as if we are some 2D object. Ive seen markers right under counters and shelves. COVID parties are another sign of idiocy. If people would take the time to understand viral loads, they would understand many of the people who do not show severe symptoms received a minimal load to make them sick. Having someone cough a heavy viral load into your body can have a much more severe outcome. So why are we the least bit surprised a 20 year old has died from this? And again, we need TTI and rapid testing. But instead, we are still b****ing about the the small handful of people who refuse to wear a mask. Nobody gives a **** about TTI and rapid testing. Some how we think its ok that it takes a week to get results back.
re-infection isn’t that surprising given that antibodies do decrease over time but having it worse the 2nd time... This isn’t a study but reports from dr. Emerging cases of Covid-19 reinfection suggest herd immunity is wishful thinking. Covid-19 may also be much worse the second time around. During his first infection, my patient experienced a mild cough and sore throat. His second infection, in contrast, was marked by a high fever, shortness of breath, and hypoxia, resulting in multiple trips to the hospital.
One of the Covids has defected. We've set it up so that it can live in Montana peacefully. And marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for it. And it will have a pickup truck. And freely drive from state to state. It's a game changer. Now we knows it's secrets.
While this is likely true, it's not the sugar that's the problem, as the hospital can bring your sugar under control in merely seconds. It's the compromised immune system. It takes twice as long for a diabetic to fight off a virus which gives the virus the upper hand.
