Cost of 100% testing is less than economic cost of no work

Why is that all these other countries can do it, but not the US?

Pathetic. Or as your Trump man would say, SAD!

 

I hear what your saying but it's just hard to take a coked-out Mike Tyson seriously.

 

the priority given to covid is insane, bone marrow transplant is suspended now , which means a given patient will take additional 4-5 more chemotherapies and goes through cycle immune suppressed, because now days it's an elective procedure

 

Since it's that kind of time, I'll read IBTL's posts in my mind with Iron Mike's voice.

 

Coth uff wun-hundeth pissent testhing is lesth dan ecconamic coth uff no work

 

It's a little disconcerting when a medical professional as yourself couldn't read a very to the point and fact driven article.

It doesn't matter if 60 trillion was sent towards providing it, the ventilators and tests cannot appear out of thin air. This is a situation of time and resources the US cannot generate overnight. They're already using every possible NOW situation, like replacement fans from F-150's and other heavily available items, to be a part of these ventilators, but the supply isn't infinite and the factories domestically are not calibrated to have this process streamlined. It takes many months just to set up a factory to be able to produce PROFESSIONAL level goods that can seamlessly fit together. And with expensive labor costs, you guessed it, most has been sourced overseas.

This is what gives the far east countries the advantage, not because they have more "heart". With the crisis in Italy and Spain after China's curve slightly flattened, a lot of resources had already been promised to them before they could start on anything from the US.

Beds and space are a different story. The US mobilized, had the resources and now have enough to handle the increase of cases.

But complex medical equipment? Raw materials needed for swab tests?

To summarize - not a money thing. Not a lack of heart thing. Not a lack of extra overnight shifts. A logistical impossibility given how far down the first wave the US was and their distance from the actual manufacturing facilities and raw resources, which were already heavily based in the far east and germany.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/cancer-covid19-1.5512599

 

It's not a revelation and we should've done it then. The problem is it might be too late for testing and contract tracing to control this. The virus is already too wide spread. We have more than a million people that we know of who already have it and chances are that it's much much more widespread than we think. Testing is important to know really what scale this is but it is going to be very difficult to contact tracing with quarantine to control this now. If we're quarantining millions it basically will look like what we currently have and we'll still be seeing protest from those positive but asymptomatic demanding their right to go out. We already had that as one of the leaders of the NC protest was positive yet still went and protested.

 

The difference is 40 days I absolutely thought testing was necessary. I still do because we need to know how wide spread this actually is. The problem I see is that we know that the virus is very widespread already. Things like contact tracing work when the numbers are still small and manageable. We're probably well past that already.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't test and I would certainly contribute to get more testing but testing, isolating people who test positive and then track the people they interact with is going to be very very difficult when we are in the millions infected.

 

How much is testing for all Americans?

Great but who pays for it???

Probably TRILLIONS if Bernie mentions it.

Too expensive! Get back to work slackers!

 

Don't hate the facts -

https://apnews.com/bf685dcf52125be54e030834ab7062a8

DHS report: China hid virus’ severity to hoard supplies

 

Talking about costs. It is expensive to treat people in the hospital through the various stages until death on a ventilator. It is also expensive to train new people when experienced people die. Expensive to pay out on insurance policies. Expensive to put folks on welfare and food stamps when the breadwinner dies. So even if you just look at it as it lost lives versus cost it could be naive to just assume that it is more expensive to socially distance or quarantine than opening up

 

I'm all for massive testing. Here in Texas there has been little testing done. Abbott is doing what he's doing "on faith" as much as anything. I prefer science.