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[ClutchFans] Tracy McGrady attends Rockets practice today (10/4/2013)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by swyyyguy, Oct 4, 2013.

  1. flamingdts

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    Do you know who coached the team in 04-05, and what his philosophy was..?
     
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    in 5 or 6 years,perhaps as an assistant.
     
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    You really are an idiot.Also I stand y the fact you either weren't a fan then or just stupid.Tmac could have easily averaged more that year but we had Yao and a deep roster that requierrd an more even balance. Tmac of 2004-2005 and healthy is or was a HOF type monster.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    So it's JVG's fault that he wasn't as good as Harden? McGrady took over 21 shots per game that year, if he'd have made more of them, he'd have scored more then again, efficient scoring was never really his strong suite.
     
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    Absolutely! TMac could have scored more if he'd have made more of his shots.
     
  7. CONAN 888

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    Where Glenn Rice???
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    You are thinking of TMac of 2002-2004, he was really awesome in 2004-2005, but not quite as awesome as Harden was last year. Of course, after that TMac never was really healthy ever again.
     
  9. Spiegel

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    You know, you're continues stupidity shines through. Tmac generated the most double teams when he was healthy then anyother player probably then Kobe. His decision making on the basketball court was second to none was his court vision.

    There are other factors involved then just sheer stats.
     
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    Okay, you clearly don't know anything about JVG era of Rockets then.
     
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    Exactly. Adelman didn't want TMac on the team b/c he didn't fit into his Princeton style, no-star offense. Adelman wanted TMac gone. The Rox thought they had TMac replaced with Trevor Ariza who at the time was playing real well; and so they figured TMac was expendable. They messed with TMac, that's for sure, limited his minutes, as if to frustrate him on purpose. It was pretty obvious.
     
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    The rockets played at a snails pace in the JVG years, while Harden played on a fast breaking running team last year, you can't compare the stats directly because the way the games were being played were completely different!
     
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    Hmm, interesting take. So you think that by me pointing out how many shots TMac took per game and saying if he'd have made more of them then he'd have scored more that it somehow says that I don't know anything about the JVG era? Tell me more.
     
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    Can you provide a link to these wide reports? I don't recall that at all.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm comparing shots to shots. Harden scored 25.9 points per game on 17.1 shots. McGrady scored 25.7 points on 21.3 shots per game.

    The pace argument would apply if Harden shot more, he didn't.
     
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    Not really. in 2007-2008 tmac finished 6th in the MVP ranking after having a very good year under ADELMAN. the whole issue stemed from the fact that he made some bad moves in opting to have the Microfracture surgery without consulting the team and having his own schedule. Rick never had an issue with Tmac prior to that.
     
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    I think was Worji who reported or stein.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>VIDEO: D12 on convo w/ T-Mac/response to Kareem <a href="http://t.co/ovctlOzkCp">http://t.co/ovctlOzkCp</a> Harden on T-Mac <a href="http://t.co/2nAI4MZMZE">http://t.co/2nAI4MZMZE</a> McHale <a href="http://t.co/MLc5Jo1UUZ">http://t.co/MLc5Jo1UUZ</a></p>&mdash; Jason Friedman (@JasonCFriedman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonCFriedman/statuses/386205021471129600">October 4, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    People who say Harden is better than TMac...have to remember something. TMac was double teamed nearly all the time meanwhile the second leading scorer on the team was Rafer Alston. I was watching a game from the '06 season recently where TMac's teammates on the floor were all scrubs, starting at the 4 was a rookie Chuck Hayes. Yao in the first few years of his career was very raw. Anyway, the other Rockets simply could not finish at the basket or make a wide-open three. TMac would make an incredible pass to a teammate and the teammate couldn't finish! Harden meanwhile is surrounded by a very talented surrounding cast, and rarely if ever gets double teamed.
     
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    Watch some old games on Youtube and see how dominant TMac was. Harden is really good; but TMac is better. Also TMac stepped it up in the playoffs.

    Kobe said recently that his most challenging foe ever was TMac.
     

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