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CIA/FBI Investigate Iranian Role In Prompting Iraq War

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  1. gifford1967

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    From The Guardian
    http://www.guardian.co.uk


    US intelligence fears Iran duped hawks into Iraq war

    · Inquiry into Tehran's role in starting conflict
    · Top Pentagon ally Chalabi accused

    Julian Borger in Washington
    Tuesday May 25, 2004
    The Guardian

    An urgent investigation has been launched in Washington into whether Iran played a role in manipulating the US into the Iraq war by passing on bogus intelligence through Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress, it emerged yesterday.
    Some intelligence officials now believe that Iran used the hawks in the Pentagon and the White House to get rid of a hostile neighbour, and pave the way for a Shia-ruled Iraq.

    According to a US intelligence official, the CIA has hard evidence that Mr Chalabi and his intelligence chief, Aras Karim Habib, passed US secrets to Tehran, and that Mr Habib has been a paid Iranian agent for several years, involved in passing intelligence in both directions.

    The CIA has asked the FBI to investigate Mr Chalabi's contacts in the Pentagon to discover how the INC acquired sensitive information that ended up in Iranian hands.

    The implications are far-reaching. Mr Chalabi and Mr Habib were the channels for much of the intelligence on Iraqi weapons on which Washington built its case for war.

    "It's pretty clear that Iranians had us for breakfast, lunch and dinner," said an intelligence source in Washington yesterday. "Iranian intelligence has been manipulating the US for several years through Chalabi."

    Larry Johnson, a former senior counter-terrorist official at the state department, said: "When the story ultimately comes out we'll see that Iran has run one of the most masterful intelligence operations in history. They persuaded the US and Britain to dispose of its greatest enemy."

    Mr Chalabi has vehemently rejected the allegations as "a lie, a fib and silly". He accused the CIA director, George Tenet, of a smear campaign against himself and Mr Habib.

    However, it is clear that the CIA - at loggerheads with Mr Chalabi for more than eight years - believes it has caught him red-handed, and is sticking to its allegations.

    "The suggestion that Chalabi is a victim of a smear campaign is outrageous," a US intelligence official said. "It's utter nonsense. He passed very sensitive and classified information to the Iranians. We have rock solid information that he did that."

    "As for Aras Karim [Habib] being a paid agent for Iranian intelligence, we have very good reason to believe that is the case," added the intelligence official, who did not want to be named. He said it was unclear how long this INC-Iranian collaboration had been going on, but pointed out that Mr Chalabi had had overt links with Tehran "for a long period of time".

    An intelligence source in Washington said the CIA confirmed its long-held suspicions when it discovered that a piece of information from an electronic communications intercept by the National Security Agency had ended up in Iranian hands. The information was so sensitive that its circulation had been restricted to a handful of officials.

    "This was 'sensitive compartmented information' - SCI - and it was tracked right back to the Iranians through Aras Habib," the intelligence source said.

    Mr Habib, a Shia Kurd who is being sought by Iraqi police since a raid on INC headquarters last week, has been Mr Chalabi's righthand man for more than a decade. He ran a Pentagon-funded intelligence collection programme in the run-up to the invasion and put US officials in touch with Iraqi defectors who made claims about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.

    Those claims helped make the case for war but have since proved groundless, and US intelligence agencies are now scrambling to determine whether false information was passed to the US with Iranian connivance.

    INC representatives in Washington did not return calls seeking comment.

    But Laurie Mylroie, a US Iraq analyst and one of the INC's most vocal backers in Washington, dismissed the allegations as the product of a grudge among CIA and state department officials driven by a pro-Sunni, anti-Shia bias.

    She said that after the CIA raised questions about Mr Habib's Iranian links, the Pentagon's Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) conducted a lie-detector test on him in 2002, which he passed with "flying colours".

    The DIA is also reported to have launched its own inquiry into the INC-Iran link.

    An intelligence source in Washington said the FBI investigation into the affair would begin with Mr Chalabi's "handlers" in the Pentagon, who include William Luti, the former head of the office of special plans, and his immediate superior, Douglas Feith, the under secretary of defence for policy.

    There is no evidence that they were the source of the leaks. Other INC supporters at the Pentagon may have given away classified information in an attempt to give Mr Chalabi an advantage in the struggle for power surrounding the transfer of sovereignty to an Iraqi government on June 30.

    The CIA allegations bring to a head a dispute between the CIA and the Pentagon officials instrumental in promoting Mr Chalabi and his intelligence in the run-up to the war. By calling for an FBI counter-intelligence investigation, the CIA is, in effect, threatening to disgrace senior neo-conservatives in the Pentagon.

    "This is people who opposed the war with long knives drawn for people who supported the war," Ms Mylroie said.
     
  2. GladiatoRowdy

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    This, if accurate, could be the biggest intelligence coup since WWI. To think that the US could have been duped into attacking Iraq by Iran. And who would have guessed that it would have happened to Bush?

    Insane.
     
  3. Rockets10

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    i still can't believe how much the pentagon and the white house relied on chalabi through all of this, considering the state department, and pretty much everyone else, stated from the beginning and knew all along that he was a crook and unreliable.
     
  4. MacBeth

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    It's exactly like all those pre-war critics, many of whom resigned, were saying:

    If you put what you want ahead of what you find, you'll find what you want, but it won't be reliable. That's what we did, and now we're trying to say "Gee, bad intel. Who knew?"
     
  5. Rockets10

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    it's also a textbook case of selectively believing what you want to believe and ignoring all other doubts. Everyone knew that Chalabi was bad news even before 9/11 happened, let alone the pre-war Iraq debate and the war itself. I still remember a seminar I attended in 2001 with the former US Ambassador to Qatar who talked about Chalabi and his corrupt dealings. The guy single-handedly nearly bankrupted the Jordanian banking system when he committed bank fraud and caused a panic in the system. The state department never trusted the man and was never really supportive of the U.S. government's supprt of the INC, but somehow that was ignored. go figure . . .
     
  6. MacBeth

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    Yep, and the patterns's repeating itself elsewhere:

    Pre-war:


    Anti-war crowd: We're going to war on dubious intelligence gathered selectively. This is nowhere near solid enough to justify an invasion. Even good intel isn't solid, and this is bad.

    Pro-war crowd: We're under threat of a nuclear holocaust, and all you can do is question our intelligence agencies? They're the best in the world.

    AWC: But we haven't seen any proof, and what proof we have seen has been frighteningly unfounded.

    PWC: Who are you going to believe, the President of the United States or Saddam Hussein?

    AWC: Has nothing to do with that. Our sources are bad, and the nature of intelligence is rarely solid enough to justify a pre-emptive war at the best of times.

    PWC: We have the intel, our guys say it's a go, and you want to hold Saddam's hand and talk about the nature of intelligence.


    Post-war:

    AWC: So we invaded, and no connection to 9-11, and no WMDs.

    PWC: Well, that's the nature of intelligence. Besides, we had bad sources...


    :eek:


    We've seen the same thing with regards to the war itself, and the support of the Iraqis. The same guys who told us it would be a walk, and we would be greeted as liberators are now rebutting our demands for accountability by telling us what we said pre-war as if it were news.
     
  7. SpaceCity

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    Wow.

    How embarassing if true.
     
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    this deserves to be bumped.
     
  9. RocketMan Tex

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    So, if this is true, in effectthe POTUS and his cabinet were played like a fiddle by the Mullahs in Iran??????

    Worst. President. Ever.
     
  10. mc mark

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    Good Morning!

    Can we say that this effectively kills the policy of pre-emption?
     
  11. u851662

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    If this is true, I blame the PRESIDENT! I cant believe that the country in which is the most capable in the world rely'd on a hunch about something so serious and affecting so many peoples lives. I can only imagine how the family of a fallen solider feels in hearing this news. I will say that the president of the United States has more tools at his disposal than by far any leader in the world. However is Incompetent enough to put America in a position where almost every country in the world hates us. The two things I wonder the most is will the rest of the world be competent enough to understand that our leader made these decisions, not AMERICANS! But I guess since he was put in office OUR leader to them is a reflection of AMERICANS.... The other thing is will AMERICANS continue to have the blind trust that we do have in BUSH? I guess we will find out in November... If we do, I may need to move to Canada for the next 4 years J/K
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    If Bush was duped it was by Rumsfeld he had a hard on to get rid of Saddam since '91

    Shifting blame before the election if you ask me.

    DD
     

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