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Chinese Army Tied to Widespread Hacking

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_n...d-to-widespread-us-hacking?lite&lite=obinsite

    Report: Chinese army tied to widespread US hacking

    BEIJING – A group of hackers linked to the Chinese military has stolen reams of sensitive data from more than 100 prominent American companies and organizations, according to an explosive new report.

    “The details we have analyzed during hundreds of investigations convince us that the groups conducting these activities are based primarily in China and that the Chinese Government is aware of them,” U.S. computer-security firm Mandiant Corp. said in a 74-page report released on Tuesday.

    The story was first reported by The New York Times.

    One group originating from China that Mandiant had been tracking since 2006 and identified in the study as “APT1” allegedly swiped data from 141 companies in 20 industries ranging from aerospace to telecommunications, according to the report. More than 110 of those companies were American, according to Mandiant.

    Mandiant said that the data suggests that the hacker group was either working for or sponsored by China’s People’s Liberation Army. Indeed, according to the organization’s information, APT1’s activity originated from a People’s Liberation Army cyberware division known as “Unit 61398.”

    “Our research found that People’s Liberation Army (PLA’s) Unit 61398 is similar to APT1 in its mission, capabilities, and resources,” it said, according to the report. “PLA Unit 61398 is also located in precisely the same area from which APT1 activity appears to originate.”

    Mandiant said that the hacking originated from a drab 12-story office building on the outskirts of Shanghai. Hundreds, maybe even thousands, of operatives performed covert corporate espionage and extracted trade secrets, blueprints, pricing data and other corporate information from countless American servers from the innocuous tower, according to Mandiant.

    The hackers used techniques like “spear-phishing” -- using spoof emails to trick users into granting access to internal servers --demonstrating a strong proficiency in the English language and advanced understanding of computer security and network operations, the organization said.

    Media blackout
    Though the story exploded on Twitter and in the foreign news media, it has hardly made any waves in China. Twitter has long been blocked in the country and foreign media companies that broadcast on the mainland like CNN were blacked out when the report was mentioned on air.

    Coverage of Mandiant’s report was also absent from Chinese news websites, but some discussion of the report could still be found on China’s Twitter-like service, Weibo.

    “Chinese hackers are so capable! I always thought Americans are very powerful!” exclaimed one user.

    “Reports by foreign media cannot be fully trusted,” warned another user, “but there must be something.”
    This was a sentiment partly shared by China’s Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hong Lei, who responded today to questions about the hacking report by calling them “groundless” and reiterating the government’s unwavering position on the matter.

    “To make groundless accusations based on some rough material is neither responsible nor professional,” he said, before noting that China was also the victim of hacking attacks.

    Hong also argued that the new evidence provided by Mandiant and the New York Times will not withstand closer scrutiny.

    But China’s cyber activities have been under increasingly closer scrutiny in recent weeks, as a slew of news stories have come out about Beijing’s reported hacking ambitions. Last month, the New York Times reported that its own servers had been attacked by hackers originating in China, possibly in response to an embarrassing expose it published showing the hidden riches of out-going Chinese premier, Wen Jiabao.
    While the White House has largely remained silent on the hacking issue -- President Barack Obama mentioned hacking in his State of the Union but did not specifically cite China -- the government has been noticeably increasing efforts to strengthen cyber security.

    Last week Obama issued an Executive Order calling for the improving of critical infrastructure tied to cyber security. That the move came on the eve of the publication of two similar exposes -- last week Bloomberg printed another story demonstrating PLA hacking of American systems -- suggests the administration could be taking a long called for tougher stance on Chinese hacking by “naming and shaming” known mainland hacking groups.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Not surprised, they smile, shake your hand and stab you in the back - that is the Chinese government's way.

    DD
     
  3. chrispbrown

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    Obama's fault...
     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    Somehow I think stories like these are being published to increase support for CISPA.

    Is our network security really that poor?
     
  5. ima_drummer2k

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    They should spend less time computer hacking and more time combat training...

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  6. Mr. Clutch

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    Is there a good reason we shouldn't let them annex us?

    Our debt would disappear.
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    They're shockingly poor. Ever wonder why so many come to the US?

    Average income per capita is around one TENTH of an American's.
     
  8. Nook

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    I have no desire to be associated with the Chinese government in anyway.
     
  9. Andre0087

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    Nothing new here...China has been stealing sensitive info from our government and corporations for the past 15 years or so.
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    I'd be shocked if we don't have a unit in the US Army doing the exact same thing to Chinese (and other) targets. It's plain negligent for a world power like the US or China to not engage in cyber-espionage.
     
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    No kidding - wasn't the CIA behind the Stuxnet virus in the Iranian nuclear plant? There is no moral high ground here.
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    let's just steal schit from them back. What do they have of value? oops nothing. oh well
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    Even if there's no tech they have right now that we'd want, it might still be nice to know what the heir-apparent world power with a billion people and a burgeoning economy is doing in developing its military might.
     
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    Giving freebies to everyone in the party.
     
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    The most valuable information the Chinese hold is on the Chinese Communist Party, and I rather doubt those conversations are lying around in some computer. I bet most of the American hacking effort goes into trying to see how developed the Chinese military is.
     
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    I doubt any hack performed by army level professionals could be identified by news reporters. This kind of news is only for entertainment and brainwashing or fund application.

    I would be surprised if Chinese army are not doing the hacking stuff. They have a big budget and have the responsibility to keep China safe.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    The NYT hired a firm that specializes in identifying the origins of hackers. The NYT was hacked after publishing an article on Chinese officials. They then engaged said company.
     
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    But yes both governments are engaging in these activities.
     
  19. Major

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    Where did you get the idea that news reporters were the ones to identify this? :confused:
     
  20. pippendagimp

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    they are own all our base :(
     
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