1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Cheap Tilman catches another break...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hardy Toll Road, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. pippendagimp

    pippendagimp Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2000
    Messages:
    24,829
    Likes Received:
    15,657
    i nominate this for dumbest fuking post of the year
     
  2. Xerobull

    Xerobull Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2003
    Messages:
    16,810
    Likes Received:
    5,113
    No; not at all. I'm super cool with a cool whip topping but I sincerely try to not be a contrarian in anything. Sure, there are sports owners who appear more lavish in their spending but I guarantee that they don't lose a dime.
     
  3. Xerobull

    Xerobull Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2003
    Messages:
    16,810
    Likes Received:
    5,113
    I will bet you that EG doesn't understand the NBA CBA -or- the MLB CBA. He's maybe a tad more informed than the people on this forum because he's in the business. It's like saying that your employees understand your business model so well they could run the company. EG's comments come out of frustration.

    I guess the moral of the story is that Tilman may be bad at communicating to his employees (and us fans) and helping them understand the vision of the business. It's selling your employees on what they do. It's a common failing in any sector.
     
  4. BigShasta

    BigShasta Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2014
    Messages:
    4,689
    Likes Received:
    3,757
    So tired of reading about Tilman being Cheap. Can't believe Clutch has let the trolling last this long.
     
  5. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    Messages:
    41,203
    Likes Received:
    24,341
    If you want people to be happy that the owner is avoiding avenues that would improve the team’s chances at winning a championship, I don’t know what to tell you. I’m sorry people would rather have an improved roster.
     
    D-rock, HP3, FrontRunner and 8 others like this.
  6. Acura

    Acura Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2019
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    166
    Gotta pay the tax if you want to win
     
    D-rock likes this.
  7. Acura

    Acura Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2019
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    166
    Do you not understand there are ways to operate over the cap? This isn’t new
     
    D-rock likes this.
  8. sabesque

    sabesque Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2007
    Messages:
    2,135
    Likes Received:
    256
    Player A (Tillman): Two summers ago, this guy dropped over 2 billion to buy the Houston Rockets.

    Player B (Me): 3 hours ago this guy used the remaining 82 cents on my starbucks gift card so it wouldn't go to waste

    Which one of these is cheap?
     
  9. snowconeman22

    snowconeman22 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2008
    Messages:
    10,101
    Likes Received:
    10,787
    Depends on if you tipped ;)

    Look ... I’m not thrilled with Tilman’s decisions not to pay the LT so far ....

    Maybe there were no deals out there , maybe going Into the tax was just too much of a price for a small upgrade and would have hampered his ability to field teams near the cap in the near future .

    I understand tilman just bought the team and owners in that situation (unless they are wealthy even among owners ) often find it tough to be able to spend all in .

    Still , it’s disappointing and I wish tilman didn’t talk so much crap to accompany his (so far) lack of follow through .

    The truth is we have given up assets to move salary and those assets could have been used more directly to improve the team. We have left avenues to spend open and not used them .

    That hurts when you are a contending team and every marginal advantage can be the difference .
     
    D-rock, Joshfast, smp and 1 other person like this.
  10. Verbal Christ

    Verbal Christ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,309
    Likes Received:
    3,281
    What do the Chris Paul Only Fans have to say about this? Feels bad man huh?
     
  11. J.R.

    J.R. Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    78,897
    Likes Received:
    75,895
  12. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    40,530
    Likes Received:
    34,030
    To reiterate, this doesn't mean Westbrook is giving up money, he's just letting Tilman have extra time to pay him. He'll still get all of that money over the year but now Tilman will get a little time to come up with the cash.
     
    Gray_Jay and J.R. like this.
  13. ipaman

    ipaman Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2002
    Messages:
    11,627
    Likes Received:
    5,584
    It is SO ridiculous that I opened a feedback thread for this trolling a while back. Local guy spends 2+ BILLION dollars and constantly gets called cheap by these trolls. SO annoying and I can't believe shitposting like this is allowed in the GARM.
     
  14. Hardy Toll Road

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2019
    Messages:
    144
    Likes Received:
    165
    But its not trolling :rolleyes:
     
  15. fallenphoenix

    fallenphoenix Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Messages:
    9,769
    Likes Received:
    1,498
    right? an owner shouldn't troll his fanbase by saying things like "whatever it takes" then push for money saving moves behind doors
     
  16. TilmanFinancialWindfall

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2019
    Messages:
    1,395
    Likes Received:
    1,189
    Player b is frugal.

    Player a is a billionaire and talks big but spend like player a in all line of business, including his basketball team
     
    sabesque and PhilCollins like this.
  17. J.R.

    J.R. Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    78,897
    Likes Received:
    75,895
    Didn't realized Broke Boy was doing it during the season as well.

    Under Fertitta, the club has been averse to making significant upfront payments in a variety of transactions — when Houston traded cash in three separate deals during the 2018/19 league year, it always sent that cash in many installments, rather than in a single lump sum.

     
  18. TilmanFinancialWindfall

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2019
    Messages:
    1,395
    Likes Received:
    1,189
    Lol. Broke boy.

    Too bad he doesn't own New Orleans Pelican. Call him Po boy.
     
    D-rock and kjayp like this.
  19. kjayp

    kjayp Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2006
    Messages:
    6,907
    Likes Received:
    4,730
    Coaches dont affect the cap or luxury tax... why we on the cheap there too?

    "whatever it takes..." :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
    D-rock and Gray_Jay like this.
  20. Gray_Jay

    Gray_Jay Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2010
    Messages:
    1,905
    Likes Received:
    1,831
    So every two months, Westbrook was supposed to get 9.6 million, if I'm reading this right. Instead, he's getting half that. Presumably with the remainder to be added to the other two scheduled payments, but I guess Fertitta could stretch it out the remainder of the year. In any event, Westbrook is missing 9.6 million that he won't see until December 1 at the earliest. Let's assume Russ would've dumped it all in an S&P index fund, which even after the market's woes of the last few days, is still up 13.4 percent on the year. 4 months, or 1/3 of a year, means that WB would have missed out on ~4.5% appreciation (if not more!) on 9.6 million dollars.

    Or about 430,000 dollars. It could've been more, depending on how the deal is structured. Russ may not miss the money, but I bet his agent and accountant do.

    This isn't something you do as a favor, unless you're getting something back. Like the deal not going through.

    I question the mindset of an owner---and call him cheap---that seems to think his players are just another vendor he can screw by putting them on Net 150 Days or the like. Again, are other owners pulling these kinds of financial machinations? Judging by the Warriors giving Draymond a hefty chunk of his money upfront, I have to think the answer is No.
     
    D-rock and jsilencio like this.
Loading...

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now