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Cheap Tilman catches another break...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hardy Toll Road, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. Acura

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    Yes I agree with this
     
  2. J.R.

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    Never forget.



    Yeah, I'm biased. Yeah, you hate Tilman. Why can't he just be congratulating the Astros without it also being a shot at Tilman, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    But that was a shot at Tilman from one of his current players.
    He didn't mention the GM Jeff Luhnow. It was the owner. "Just gets **** done."
    No accidents, no flukes, no "Well, we were close on a few deals but obviously nothing came of it." or "Well, we had something lined up but it fell through."
    "These guys do whatever it takes to win it all. They just get **** done."

    "Whatever it takes."
    [​IMG]

    Tilman Fertitta determined to do "whatever it takes" to improve Rockets
    Tilman Fertitta determined to do ‘whatever it takes’ to improve Rockets

     
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  3. RudyTBag

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    6 Proven playoff performers is a whole lot. Especially when 2 of the 6 have some of the highest playoff +-'s of all time. When Clutch City went into the year with Horry and Cassell, we probably had 4, MAYBE 5 guaranteed playoff performers on the roster. Sammy and Bob stepped up, and we need to give House the chance to do the same before you break the bank with mediocre scrubs that are not definitive playoff performers, moving House out to pasture like a real douche.

    (Notes)
    Shump - Proven commodity and who can give 15 championship minutes as an 7th/8th man. Excellent shooter/defender in the playoffs for his entire career.
    Tyson - Absolutely, 100% playable in the playoffs.
    10. Gerald Green (Let's not forget that Gerald Green had some great, great moments in the 2018 run.)

    After the top 6,

    we have Danuel House, Gerald Green, Tyson Chandler and hopefully Iman Shumpert with a full training camp. I personally love that 7-10.
     
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    There is zero reason to think we will have Shumpert. Zero.
    Chandler is playable if he's healthy. He's like Nene. Maybe he's there, maybe he's not.
    Green is a guy they play by necessity. The coach loves him but doesn't want to play him in the playoffs because he can't defend.

    That doesn't even get into the fact that this group of playable players doesn't check every box. It's not like that six runs the spectrum of roles, we have a big gap.
     
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    Zero? How about the fact that we have the rights to match any contract he is offered? Still zero? Shump is still a FA right? Holic’ism? o_O

    We check all the (imaginary) boxes for Mike D’Antoni’s system, with the exception of the 6-9, athletic wing that can shoot, that nearly every team in the NBA wishes they had.

    What we do have is two MVP’s, and some VERY nice interchangeable guards/wings that can all play 4 out, 1 in with Clint & Tyson, and Westbrook might singlehandedly cure our rebounding woes of last year.

    But back to the point, why do we have a zero percent chance of re-signing Shump? Seems a very odd thing to say.
     
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  6. RudyTBag

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    What boxes aren’t being checked?

    Who is making these boxes?

    What If we check different boxes that make other boxes not as necessary?

    Basketball is not binary...
     
  7. Elephant810

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    Lol what sources you have for Green? You jeep keep saying plenty of evidence for other players but who are you naming? Sure Rivers did the Rockets a favor but if he didn’t like being there he surely would have left and made more money too...
     
  8. YOLO

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    are you not reading? i specifically said i pray we don't find out they went cheap with him. the rockets already tried to acquire him once. its not like there wasn't interest there to begin with and he ended up signing for less than mle. Did FA just not begin like a month ago? Were there not a long list of names that either signed or moved somewhere else? Were morey, mda, and co. not in LA meeting with FA's when it opened? do you need a list of all those names. seriously, try opening your eyes a bit and think a little. or wait is it the none of those players are worth tax so tilman is ok logic
     
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    I went to UCLA and went to every home game Westbrook played in. My boss at the time was a huge UCLA booster so also invited me to some of the practices Howland rain and the special dinners they had for boosters at the time.

    Westbrook did everything asked of him there, he wasnt a heavily recruited player out of high school he was going to go to Creighton I believe until Howland was able to free up a scholarship slot.

    Westbrook is a much differently player today than he was then (DPOY in the PAC-10 - no where near defensive awards today) but he is willing to sacrifice if he buys in. He bought in with Howland...i am of that he has had really shitty coaches in the NBA, we will see if he will buy in with D'Antoni and Harden. So far it seems he will
     
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    Well I'm def not in favor of this, the more frontloaded his contract is the better cuz that means he has less salary as he ages. Purely a $$$ move by Tillman.
     
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    That Danuel House fiasco prob cost us seeding among other things...

    Gifting away FRP is pretty much unjustified from a winning/future standpoint
     
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    Rules that apply to the players don't apply to the owners. Cuban has been coming to his games dressed like a toddler that would see him fined for breaking the old player dress requirements for years.
     
  13. kjayp

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    Not paying Ariza... obviously could have been signed and traded even...
    Not willing to pony up for Iggy...
    Spending draft picks to get under the LT... and getting rid of contracts which would be expiring and could be used as an asset now...

    These are all probably wise moves financially... I got no problem with those moves - I understand its a business...

    but dont say things like "whatever it takes..." - bc obviously its not an 'at any costs' scenario...

    its remarks such as these that are getting him static as he likes to run his mouth and people are taking him literally...

    ...jus sayin...
     
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    I think we almost assuredly do resign Shump. What we do with him after that is another matter.

    Personally, I want to see him log 26-28 minutes/game for us.
     
  15. Invisible Fan

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    For consistency, Tilfart's writing a follow up book titled "Practice What You Preach!"
     
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    When we get eliminated next playoffs, I hope people do not forget how Tilman try his best to avoid luxury tax.

    Do not blame James Harden or RW.
     
  17. TilmanFinancialWindfall

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    You is right

    Blame LTS. Blame Canada. Blame cash me out flow problem Tilman aka Chapter 11 junk bond status owner
     
  18. PeterKingX

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    If we had paid luxury tax to sign Ariza last season, we could have been the championship now.

    You won’t any longer get that good opportunity.
     
  19. Acura

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    What in the world
     
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    If that's happening, Iman is healthy... playing great D and sticking the 3.
    He was never 100% last year...not enough time to get all the way back.
    Shump becomes our three in crunch time or gets dealt.
     
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