Celtics trade #1 pick to Sixers

Eh, not sure there's that much of a difference between them, Butler's defense also declined...yeah, he's probably still the better player between them, and he has also a pretty cheap contract for a couple of years, but i'm not sure he's that much better to cost you a 1st pick.

 

Well..if this trade goes down it's obvious that Ainge didn't believe that Hayward would choose Boston. Maybe his agent already has made his intentions known.

But it looks more like the usual rumours bs.

 

Yep i agree.

 

You can win a title if Butler is your best player with the right team around you, I don't think the same can be said if Hayward is your best player, he's an ideal #2 option.

 

Fair enough i guess.

 

Ehhh not that simple.

Butler is a ball stopper and requires the ball in his hands to be effective.

Butler isn't the defender he was a few years ago but he is still pretty solid.

Butler's attitude isn't the best and he has heavy mileage.

Hayward is the better offensive player. He can play multiple spots, score inside and outside, put the ball on the floor and in transition. He is a match up nightmare. In a system like the Warriors or Rockets, he could get 25 a night.

Defensively he is under rated, he gets over well and can even switch on the perimeter. It is hard to say how many deficiencies are covered by Snyder and Gobbert defensively.

Butler has to be "the man" to really do what he does. The problem is that don't think he is a good enough #1 to win against James, Harden and other #1 options.

Hayward can fit in and thrive not dominating the ball.

 

I have a feeling this is what the trade will be

Sixers: No. 1 pick.

Bulls: Jahlil Okafor, No. 3 pick, Nets No.18 pick.

Celtics: Jimmy Butler.

 

Danny Ainge is just doing his due diligence trying to determine the market value for Fultz and the number one pick so he can shop around and see what other offers he might solicit leading up the draft. He has the ammunition in terms of young players and draft picks to trade for pretty much anyone in the league.

Celtics are also $30 million under the cap this offseason so this could be a perfect storm of free agency SPLASH. Boston could hypothetically trade for either Paul George or Jimmy Butler and then also acquire either Blake Griffin or Gordon Hayward via free agency to form another Big 3.

 

Butler barely made the playoffs this year as a #1 option (in the EAST), Hayward on the other hand was the leader of a top 6 NBA team.

 

maybe both? I'm not convinced adding a Butler or Paul George to the Celtics is enough to move them past the Cavs, in this case might as well just keep the pick. But if it's Hayward/Griffin + Butler/PG13,, the east is suddenly interesting again.

 

Exactly why I've suggested moving Harden for Fultz the Nets pick next year and Jaylen Brown. Lol.

 

Interesting. I'd hold on to one of those unprotected Laker or King picks though.

 

I would do that also if I knew I wasn't getting someone else next to Harden this year that is legit number 2 option. If not next year will be the same thing Warriors will beat the Rockets even if they make it far enough to play them in the playoffs.

Otherwise I would set yourself up like the Celtics and maybe in 3 years have good young talent with cap space to add a max free agent with them. Otherwise you will be spinning your wheels the next 3-4 years and by that time Harden will be in his 30's and his skill level can only compensate for his lack of athleticism for so long.

 

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Fultz is cool, but if Celtics can get their hands on star player+ pick that lands them Doncic, boi o boi.

 

Look at the teams around them. If you swap Hayward and Butler, the Bulls are worse and the Jazz are equal or marginally better.

Hayward had either the 1st or 2nd best defensive player in the NBA playing alongside him. Butler had the most dysfunctional locker room in the league this year around him.

Two years ago Butler was the best player on a team that won just as many games as this years Jazz.

 

danny ainge gonna have cold feet again, this is all apart of him driviing his ego across the league and saying, and saying look at me i have the number 1 pick