1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Bud Dupree vs. Whitney Mercilus

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by awc713, Apr 10, 2015.

Tags:
  1. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    3,679
    Likes Received:
    1,006
    Kiper's latest mock has us taking Dupree at 16. His analysis is below, but what I don't get is, what does Dupree offer us next year that Mercilus doesn't. They seem very similar in my opinion.

    Mercy measured in at 6'4'' 261 lb. in the combine. I don't watch much tape, outside of @PatDStat, but even Kiper's descriptions reminds me of Mercy. Would he be that big of an upgrade?



    COLLEGE: Kentucky Class: Sr HT: 6-4 WT: 269 POS: OLB

    Analysis: J.J. Watt is going to look like the best pass-rusher on any depth chart, but the drop-off between him and everyone else on the Texans' roster is bigger than they'd like to see at this point, and adding a high-upside athlete and edge rusher with the size and athleticism to move around depending on how you want to mix your looks is a good get here. Dupree has produced, and against top competition. And while he's not a mechanic in terms of pass-rushing tools, he has the traits you look for and the potential to get better.
     
    #1 awc713, Apr 10, 2015
  2. Nimo

    Nimo Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    9,428
    Likes Received:
    2,752
    I think they want Clowney/Mercilus' position to be like the SAM where they'll need to fall into coverage sometimes. If Dupree gets drafted, I think he will play the Brooks Reed position and almost never have to cover.
     
    #2 Nimo, Apr 10, 2015
  3. AFS

    AFS Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2010
    Messages:
    3,724
    Likes Received:
    369
    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oXYLlrJ5OFY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    He's raw but has crazy potential.
     
    #3 AFS, Apr 10, 2015
  4. justtxyank

    justtxyank We are all Kosh
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    35,523
    Likes Received:
    20,187
    Reed dropped into coverage a lot

    I don't understand where this idea has come from that mercilus can cover
     
    #4 justtxyank, Apr 10, 2015
  5. EddieWasSnubbed

    EddieWasSnubbed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2002
    Messages:
    15,751
    Likes Received:
    2,234
    Dupree can cover and he's got his full index finger.
     
    #5 EddieWasSnubbed, Apr 10, 2015
  6. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2000
    Messages:
    12,471
    Likes Received:
    1,323
    Mercilus' bright future is behind him. He's had his chance to be the shiny new toy, and peed his pants instead.

    Dupree's bright future is ahead of him.

    Mercilus didn't live up to his potential. He's a one dimensional mediocre sack specialist. Dupree could be that - he could even be less than that, but he could still turn into a complete player, with coaching and effort. Mercilus, on the other hand, is a dead end street. If he hasn't grown by now, he's not going to.

    There is overlap for one year, but Mercilus will be gone after next year. The Texans aren't going to bring Mericilus back for more than $8 million per. He's a decent value at $1 million. He is ridiculously overpaid at $8 million. That's almost as much as Foster is on the books for for next year, and I'm going to bet they are going to balk at paying him (Foster) that much and will cut him. Mercilus is no Arian Foster.

    Dupree also put up much better combine results than Mercilus, where he participated:

    4.56 vs 4.68 40
    42 vs 32 inch vertical
    138 vs 118 long jump


    Finally, just because some hack writing a draft guide lists them both as "raw pass rusher" doesn't make the two equal.
     
    #6 Ottomaton, Apr 10, 2015
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2015
    1 person likes this.
  7. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    24,557
    Likes Received:
    10,553
    There are a lot of things Mercilus cannot do.
     
    #7 Nook, Apr 10, 2015
  8. justtxyank

    justtxyank We are all Kosh
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    35,523
    Likes Received:
    20,187
    Agreed. I'm not a fan at all, but at least get his position right. He is the rusher. he can't drop into coverage and that's why he and clowney can't play together.
     
    #8 justtxyank, Apr 10, 2015
  9. edwardc

    edwardc Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2003
    Messages:
    5,040
    Likes Received:
    605
    He'll be gone by the time we pick .
     
    #9 edwardc, Apr 21, 2015
  10. SwoLy-D

    SwoLy-D Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2001
    Messages:
    37,584
    Likes Received:
    1,378
    :confused:

    Ouch. That was low.
     
    #10 SwoLy-D, Apr 21, 2015
  11. EddieWasSnubbed

    EddieWasSnubbed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2002
    Messages:
    15,751
    Likes Received:
    2,234
    It didn't mean it as low. I just meant it as a joke. I always thought it was cool that Mercilus lost his finger trying to help someone out.
     
    #11 EddieWasSnubbed, Apr 21, 2015
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Loading...
Similar Threads - Dupree Whitney Mercilus
  1. Rockets34Legend

    Mercilus done for the year

    Rockets34Legend, Oct 9, 2017, in forum: Houston Texans
    Replies:
    26
    Views:
    1,693
    coachbadlee
    Oct 13, 2017
  2. Plowman

    Does anyone have an update on Whitney's knee?

    Plowman, Jan 14, 2017, in forum: Houston Texans
    Replies:
    3
    Views:
    409
    vjohnson
    Jan 14, 2017
  3. Fantasma Negro

    ESPN: Hopkins wants fair deal

    Fantasma Negro, Jul 23, 2016, in forum: Houston Texans
    Replies:
    24
    Views:
    3,988
    conquistador#11
    Jul 27, 2016
  4. Snow Villiers

    Congrats Whitney Mercilus! AFC Defensive Player of the Month.

    Snow Villiers, Jan 7, 2016, in forum: Houston Texans
    Replies:
    35
    Views:
    2,862
    The Real Shady
    Jan 18, 2016
  5. Nimo

    PFF grades the Texans Roster

    Nimo, Jun 11, 2015, in forum: Houston Texans
    Replies:
    33
    Views:
    4,786
    Mr. Clutch
    Jun 11, 2015

Share This Page

Toggle Width

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Rockets Content

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now