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[BSPN] Summer Forecast: Who will win the NBA title?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Sep 11, 2008.

  1. Rockets34Legend

    Rockets34Legend Contributing Member

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    If it's been posted, please delete.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=NBAChamps-080911&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab5pos1

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    The Lakers might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

    • The most famous pinkie in the history of hoops holds up. We've been hearing about Bryant's finger since February, and now he has opted against surgery because he doesn't want to miss any time this season with the team. Maybe this change of heart will lead to a quieter training camp for the Lakers … or not.

    • Andrew Bynum regains last season's form. The Lakers were good enough to reach the NBA Finals last season and that was without their rapidly improving big man. Bynum injured his left knee eight months ago, but now says he is 100 percent healthy. If that's the case, watch out.

    • The bench mob -- minus Ronny Turiaf, who is now in Golden State -- once again provides quality minutes.

    The Lakers might not win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

    • Kobe gets too weary during the next nine months after the Lakers' deep playoff run and his Olympic commitment. Also, if his finger forces him to miss time, that will mean trouble in Lakerland.

    • The frontcourt gets too crowded. After Pau Gasol was acquired midseason, he performed well in the frontcourt with Lamar Odom. How will Bynum fit in?

    • Derek Fisher shows signs of aging and Jordan Farmar isn't ready to fill the void.


    The Hornets might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

    • Newly acquired James Posey plays tight D and hits clutch 3s like he did in Miami and Boston.

    • Chris Paul improves on his MVP-worthy season from a year ago.

    • The young squad learned some valuable lessons during its impressive postseason run.

    The Hornets might not win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

    • They don't find someone to fill the void at 2-guard.

    • Chris Paul, David West and/or Tyson Chandler has one of those seasons in which he misses a big chunk of time due to injury.

    • The West is the wild, wild West again. Last year eight teams won 50 or more games, and with many squads making roster tweaks, the West is expected to be as competitive as ever.


    The Celtics might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

    • They continue to be the top defensive club in the league.

    • Kendrick Perkins and Rajon Rondo take their games to the next level.

    • They can get strong contributions from the likes of Eddie House, Leon Powe, Glen Davis … and (yes) Darius Miles.

    The Celtics might not win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

    • They can't find someone to make up for the loss of specialist James Posey.

    • The big three of Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen start showing their age.

    • The champs become complacent after winning their rings. The past six NBA champs each failed to defend their title.

    The Rockets might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

    • Ron Artest brings his usual intensity to the defensive end while accepting his role as the third option behind Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady on offense.

    • Brent Barry can provide veteran leadership and clutch shooting.

    • They finally make it out of the first round.

    The Rockets might not win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

    • Ron Artest blows up the team chemistry.

    • Tracy McGrady's back flare-ups get too serious or Yao suffers another injury.

    • Rafer Alston can't come close to duplicating last season's success.


    The Cavaliers might win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

    • Newly acquired Mo Williams is truly the answer at the point.

    • LeBron improves on his already off-the-chart statistics.

    • Ben Wallace shows he has more left than just a nice afro.

    The Cavaliers might not win the 2008-09 NBA title if ...

    • The Celtics' star trio stays healthy.

    • They don't get LeBron some more help.

    • Another team signs that dude who beat LeBron in H-O-R-S-E.
     
  2. The Brian

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    we're gonna win the title. :eek:
     
  3. AAAproduction1

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    i don't understand. how can we be a better team and lose more games then last season.

    58-24 book it
     
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    wtf......
     
  5. Landlord Landry

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    wow......it's not like this hasn't been said a million times.

    Thanks BSPN.
     
  6. Andy Sheets

    Andy Sheets Contributing Member

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    Knock on wood but McGrady's back hasn't flared up in awhile. It was his knee and shoulder that hurt him last season.
     
  7. ClutchCityReturns

    ClutchCityReturns Contributing Member

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    C'mon guys, seriously...the Rockets haven't been out of the first round in over a decade. The past 4 years we've had teams that we all thought could make noise, and none of them did. The Rockets don't deserve for anyone to pick them as champions yet.

    It doesn't matter what they think anyway, but don't get mad at them because they're not fans like us.
     
  8. magnetik

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    someone picked the Cavs? really?
     
  9. abc2007

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    At least, the rockets got two votes! :cool:
     
  10. Hmm

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    weren't the Celtics slotted to finish at number 2... in similar votes.. after getting their "big 3".. without having played a single game together..?

    and I am still confused as to why the Hornets continue to be considered better than the Rockets...
     
  11. ClutchCityReturns

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    Yeah, but that team didn't have the stigma that the Rockets have. Even with Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker, they got out of the first round. Plus they're in the East, where adding a great player (or two in their case) would tend to make a much bigger difference. The players on that team were almost entirely new and better, so it's not surprising that they got entirely new and better results.

    The Rockets are the same team that has done nothing in May or June for 11 years now, 4 of which happened on Yao and Tracy's watch. Adding Artest is great in theory, and should definitely equate to first round success, but old habits die hard. A championship is possible, but we should not be surprised that the media is reluctant to pick the Rockets.
     
  12. RocketsHero

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    I actually agree with the article.

    Mentality is an interesting and tricky thing, once the rockets is out of the first round, the mentality will be different for the rockets(particularly Yao Ming and T-mac).

    Watch out, rest of the NBA, watch out. Rockets is taking the NBA championship this season.

    - signed and dated by RocketsHero
     
  13. RocketsHero

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    Rockets Vs. Boston in the final, Rockets win in 7 games
     
  14. Angkor Wat

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    Fair enough. Considering we haven't been out in the 1st round for a while, 4th is reasonable.
     
  15. Andy Sheets

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    The Rockets got more votes than the Spurs, Jazz, or Suns, which says a lot, I think.
     
  16. SuperMarioBro

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    As I'm sure someone has said already... I can accept the Fakers and the Celdicks... but the Whorenets!? My god, dude, that ain' effin right. They have one good year because they manage to stay healthy once (health, a problem no one will look past for us), and now they're top three contenders?

    BS. Also BS is Cleveland being one vote behind us.

    I don't give much credibility to this. Rockets are taking it.
     
  17. mzsajjad

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    it makes no sense whatsoever to put the hornets up there ..... Celtics deserve to be the favorite. The lakers will have chemistry issues and we are a total question mark ...... where are the other western teams? cavs? dude this guy has no credibility in my boook .
     
  18. mzsajjad

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    i posted this before and ill post it again since it applies to the same concept


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    Originally Posted by Albert Einstain
    Spurs : Even though the former spur Brent Barry had joined the Rockets ,and the spurs veterans all get one year older , but they will still be a competive contender in the upcoming season , I think. They have got Mason who had not shown his full talent in Washington . More importantly , aging is not a trouble but a fortune for the spurs. To the spurs ,the older means the more experienced . Do not ever underestimate the veterans who had won 4 championships during the past decade .Maybe we'll do a little bit better in the regular season , but the spur veterans may turn things over in the playoffs because they have plenty of experiences that are especially important in playoffs. In the last season's playoffs , the spurs should have not lost to lakers so easily if manu didn't get hurt and played badly due to the injury .So the spurs deserve our attention .

    Lakers : It's no wonder the lakers will be a big rival to the Rockets . And these two teams will be gonna get the most attention because both of the two teams have their big threes . Lakers have Pau , Lamar and KB while Rockets contain Yao , Tmac and Ron Ron .Maybe KB is the most dominative guy among the six big stars , but the houston big three seems a little bit better over all than the lakers' .Lamar is an allstar level roster but he is still just close to a superstar like Ron Ron .And , in spite of injuries, yao is actually better than Pau .Not to mention the Bynum , because we have Scola .The inside combination of Yao n Scola is at least 30 percent better than that of Bynum n Pau .Besides the pair of big threes , Houston's bench is much much thicker than lakers' . Bynum can be matched up by Scola. Fisher matched up by rafer . Sasha locked up by battier , and famar eaten up by SF3 .As Turiaf has walked to GS , our inside rosters also has advantage over the lakers even though they all lack size .Ignoring Luke walton n Radmanovic who are as alike as twins ,neither can make any threat to us outside or inside . The only thing the lakers can rely on is just KB, which is also the only roster on that team that needs to be kept an eye on .

    Celtics : The celtics will not fight with us violently until the Finals begin , on condition that we all break into the Finals . The celtics may be still great in the upcoming season , but they can hardly win the championship again because they have lost James Posey that is the key-man in the finals againest lakers .Losing Posey means losing defence so their defence will no longer be as tough as the past season .I'm even afraid they will not be able to go into the finals without their great defence they used to have . Even if they would face us in the NBA finals of 08-09 , there is no need to fear that team because the Rockets are greater than celtics .We have two great defenders while they only have none .Even so , it's still more difficult to beat the celtics than beating the lakers .However , it doesn't matter whether we'll defeat the celtics in the post season , we will have won the conference championship before the finals and we should be satisfied with the conference championship then . And we will have a bigger possibility to win the title one year later when the green big three get older .

    Mavs : .............Sorry to the mavs fans .

    Suns : If it was three years ago , the suns would be the biggest contender for the title ,because O'neal was the greatest roster at that time . However , thingings have changed greatly through the three years. Nash is not the MVP any more ,and the only thing shaq still has is just his 300lbs body weight .Grant Hill is now a good role player instead of a superstar that he used to be when he was in Orlando .The suns should have won the title one or two years ago if Joe Johnson was not traded ,but Joe was traded for Diaw who is not fit for any position from 1 to 5 ( maybe you can say he fits all the five ).Suns used to be the most talented team in NBA ,but now ,the only talented guy on that team is just Stoudmair.De's leaving is the beginning of the suns' rebuilding .

    Hornets : That's the most dangerous rival ,I'm afraid . As in recent years , it seems always very difficult for us to beat the Hornets .We have beaten spurs sometimes , and beaten lakers even after they landed Gasol ,and beaten suns even more ,but we have seldom beaten the hornets .And it may be even more difficult after they landed Posey to strenghen their defence . Never to mention their offence and fast break .Even worse ,unlike lakers, Chris Paul is not the only dangerous offender on Hornets , Peja and West will also let you pay if you ignore them . Restricting Paul's scoring is not enough , it's more important to lock his passing and organizing .And the guy matching up with Paul should be as fast has him ,so it's no wonder that spurs defent the hornets last season because Tony Parker had done a good job on Paul. But who will take this stack when the Rockets face Hornets .Rafer? Aron? Our only hope is Francis who used to be the best point guard around the league .And we all trust Francis .Go Francis .

    Jazz: We had lost to the same rival in the first rounds of the past two years streak .We lost to team because we were not red then , but we'll never lose to them infuture because we have become red .All the rockets get red . And we have got Artest who is even reder .
    Instead of Carlos Boozer, Deron Williams is now the most dangerous guy on jazz ,simmilar to the condition where we face Hornets , all the hopes to stop deron totally rely on Steve Francis . I really hope Francis can go back where he was in his prime . But I 'm still optimistic to beat the jazz, after all ,even Kb is not able to save his team all by himself .

    Not to mention the teams like nuggets ,clippers ,kings ,warriors or the thunders which sounds very WNBA .
    In a word , our main rivals are located in four cities .New Orlean ,Boston, San Antonio n LA .The upcoming season's championship belongs to no other team than the five .And the rate for us to win the championship is 39 percent .
    While SA 17% ;LA 23% ; Bos 19% ; NO 2% ; other teams 0%

    The only two percent for the Hornets to win the title comes from that the rockets meet with hornets in the conference finals and lose(the teams hornets have beaten in the past two rounds don't include one of the five teams mentioned before ,say they are not able to beat either spurs or lakers ) , then the hornets beat the celtics by accident that all the green big three get injuried .



    dude no offense but your kind of dillusional , i understand you being a big fan and all but take things into perspective on some of your oppinions.

    1) Spurs are the spurs and they are dangerous and yes they are a big hurdle if we want to be the best in the west. has nothing to do with age or mason or barry, it has to do with the same machine of duncan, manu and parker with a amazing coach Pop driving the train. they are good and thats all there is to it, the only thing that derails that train is injuries, which i might tell u applies to us as well. you lose a star and it hurts to the point of not being able to recover.

    2) the lakers are the WCC and well they have kobe and gasol with a very strong supporting cast and a great coach. there style of play is a big problem and well they have proven it time after time that they know how to win . much more than we ever have. not saying we cant beat them , i say we can but you cant be sitting there and saying that we are better . only the season and competition will tell . the biggest thing that stands out is KOBE plays even when injured . this team is extremely tough.

    3) you have got to be freking kidding me on this one. lol your telling me that because of losing a supporting cast player like posey , your downgrading the team that embarrassed lakers in the finals , specially the last game ... your telling me the team that beat lakers by more than 40 has defensive issues pending. ??? what justification do you have on this? there is no question that the celtics are the biggest rivals in the nba for any team . you forget that it was only their first yr together. garnett, peirce and allen combination is picture perfect , supporting cast is there for only one reason . SUPPORT, and rondo and others are more than up to the task . plus i think ainge is doing a good job of retooling without spending much at all . thats why they let posey go .

    4) mavs dont suck but i agree i dont think they will be a huge factor in contending but that doesnt mean they wont be in the playoffs and they have the potential to be dangerous . kidd , terry , howard, nowitski , stackhouse ... man thats not the bobcats for us to just say yeh they are done. ???

    5) this was your silliest annalysis . lol the suns have serious firepower and there biggest downfall if any has to be considered losing their coach , who made the suns who they are. if porter makes this team mesh the talent level is off the charts. nash , amare, old shaq, barbosa (breakout yr) , hill , bell, diaw, barnes (underrated), lopez (not a bad rook) and that dragic guy . i dont see them being contenders because the league is really tough but in no form or manner are they done .... they can click and be extremely dangerous.

    6) over ananlysis and over hyped, no doubt this team is good but by no means is it that good and again a big over estimation of posey impact, this team has holes and it is a single man show of paul . much like the cavaliers. when it comes down to it, any elite team , us , spurs, celtics, or even others have the capability of slowing down a one man show in a 7 game series , therefore i dont think this team gets past second round anytime soon. peja wont do anything vs us or spurs. and as far as guarding paul . a artest double since they have no SG . this team is not a contender. nor is it as dangerous as the teams above.

    7) stupid analysis, this team is a great team and is extremely well coached. they run their system better than almost anyone in this league and they execute. in order to beat them you have to simply out play and out hustle them and in this case artest will definitely guard williams because of the size and we want the post up game gone . francis is a bench contributor and even if he became the man he use to be back in the days , i still wouldnt put him on williams . williams is a beast and needs to be contained. artest will do that . hopefully (gulp) . what hurts us most against this team is rebounding . they destroy us on the boards when it counts . hopefully dorsey can box out and grab boards. in the end of the day this team is very dangerous and we do have match up problems with them so i wouldnt be counting them out in no means . and there ace in the hole is simple . they never have injury issues which goes a long way.

    8) nuggets , clippers, blazers, round out the competition , kings and warriors and others in the west wont compete. i wont talk percentages because there is no logic or data to base that off of since we are in the offseason .


    with all said and done . i think we have a legit chance of winning the championship because of who we are not why we are better than others. with that said our biggest issues will have to be injuries and chemistry . ON offense more than defense. the problem with the rockets has primarilly been the ability to consistantly put points on the board but we looked to be on our way to changing that last yr . lets hope we continue to head in the right direction this yr .
     
  19. magnetik

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    is that really the authors name? LOL

     
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    We got twice the number of votes than the Cavs!
     

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