Rank 'Em: Quarterback Talents(#1 Votes)Points 1 Tom Brady (36,124) 2,585,221 2 Peyton Manning (33,385) 2,552,486 3 Drew Brees (4,632) 2,353,832 4 Ben Roethlisberger (2,272) 2,133,616 5 Kurt Warner (751) 1,890,003 6 Eli Manning (399) 1,879,284 7 Philip Rivers (954) 1,872,918 8 Donovan McNabb (342) 1,857,144 9 Jay Cutler (1,089) 1,774,481 10 Carson Palmer (158) 1,682,599 11 Tony Romo (369) 1,654,144 12 Matt Ryan (297) 1,465,137 13 Matt Cassel (150) 1,373,948 14 Matt Hasselbeck (133) 1,264,987 15 Aaron Rodgers (323) 1,188,438 16 Joe Flacco (174) 1,131,150 17 Kerry Collins (69) 1,129,876 18 Chad Pennington (129) 1,091,541 19 Jake Delhomme (65) 1,079,280 20 Marc Bulger (52) 1,001,820 21 Jeff Garcia (20) 897,263 22 Jason Campbell (217) 863,577 23 David Garrard (36) 837,428 24 Trent Edwards (214) 807,749 25 Derek Anderson (123) 743,601 26 Matt Schaub (47) 719,340 27 Brady Quinn (145) 649,028 28 Kyle Orton (193) 521,598 29 Shaun Hill (123) 409,754 30 JaMarcus Russell (187) 396,981 31 Tarvaris Jackson (121) 393,088 32 Matthew Stafford (52) 349,013 33 Mark Sanchez (41) 296,145 Total SportsNation Votes: 83,386 QB Poll Here Further proves my theory that the average fan doesn't know $#!+ about teams BSPN doesn't love. I had Matt around #8 on mine. What do you guys think? I am curious as to y'all's picks for the top ten. Yes I used two apostrophes on one word.
I don't agree, but thats understandable. But 26? They have rookies ahead of him. So whats your top ten?
For what it's worth, I only follow the NFL casually and I don't particularly like one team over another...here's my top 10 off the top of my head. 1-Tom Brady 2-Peyton Manning 3-Drew Brees 4-Kurt Warner 5-Big Ben 6-Phillip Rivers 7-Don McNabb 8-Romo 9-Cutler 10-Schaub
I'd probably put him in the middle of the pack, at least until he shows what he can do over a full season. #8 is a little too high. #26 is way too low. I'd probably put him at #13 or #14 right now. If he plays a full season and plays well, I could put him in the Top 10.
I can see the argument for middle of the pack. Just looking at his ability though, he appears to have the talent of top ten. Plus we did get a crazy number of yards last year. Gotta make those red zone trips count. Hopefully Shanahan helps that. Top five are fairly easy for me. 1. Mr Gisele 2. Mr Commercial 3. Brees 4. K Warner (for now) 5. I'd go with Rivers, though he is a d o uche. After that I put... 6. Cutler 7. Palmer (has to come back healthy) 8. Matt Schaub 9. Tony Homo (he might be higher if big games didn't matter) 10. Big Ben (being a clutch player is huge, but I don't think he has the ability of the above guys.) After that there's a lot of uncertainty. Rodgers may lead the rest. I also thought Thigpen played well, but he's not an option on the site.
I'd put him at somewhere between 12 and 16 until he shows that he can stay healthy and start 16 games. With the emergence of this offense, and one more year of improvement, with (like I said) 16 healthy games, I think he's in the top 10. I would put these QBs ahead of him right now: Brady, Peyton, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Cutler, Romo. I would say these quarterbacks are pretty near him: McNabb, Flacco, Ryan, Palmer, Cassell, Rodgers, Edwards, and MAYBE Warner. Now, these are all assuming that these guys are 100% healthy. Like I said, if Schaub can have a full, healthy season where he carries the Texans' offense to even greater heights, I say he starts moving himself into that top category. Still, I think Schaub is a middle of the pack, quarterback right now. We're lucky enough, though, that even though he's in the middle of the pack, in my opinion, he fits into a class of quarterbacks that are young and on the rise.
I don't get the obsession over the three or four guys who had pretty much just had one above-average season. There's no way I would put them above Schaub, especially not Trent Edwards or Flacco (I don't get the hype on that kid, sure he throws decently well, which is something the Ravens needed but he's pretty much just a placemat, a "score 7 points so the defense can win the game" type of player. Not a game-changer in my opinion.)
I'd put him somewhere between # 15-20 -- if he can stay healthy for an entire season he will obviously make a major jump.
Agreed. I mean, Schaub missed five full games and still had more yards and more TD's to go along with a higher completion %, higher yards per attempt, and a higher QB rating than Flacco. I get that Flacco was a rookie (and coming from the FCS) and that you can expect him to get better, but if we're talking about how good someone is right now, he's just not there yet. Same goes for Edwards. I can see Flacco getting some run because Baltimore went 11-5 and made the playoffs. But Edwards and the Bills were worse than the Texans last year.
he's about 14-17. He's better than Derek Anderson, Trent Edwards, David Garrard, Jason Campbell, Marc Bulger, Joe Flaco, Aaron Rodgers, and Matt Hasselbeck. This is as of right now, at 8:49 PM, March 21th, 2009.
Of the first ones, Big Ben and Homo have a worse rating than Matt. Of the second group, Warner and Rodgers are ahead of him. Plus he's fourth in accuracy for the year. I think that should put him in the top ten. Health is the only concern for him right now. I'm hoping this year he shakes the fragile reputation. I do agree that we're lucky to have someone in the discussion at all.
Schaub 13th IMO Top 10 Brady P.Manning Rothlisberger McNabb Brees Warner E. Manning Rivers Cutler Romo
1) Tom Brady 2) Peyton Manning 3) Drew Brees 4) Kurt Warner 5) Philip Rivers 6) Tony Romo 7) Eli Manning 8) Ben Roethlisberger 9) Carson Palmer I think Schaub is right there in consideration for the #10 spot with a few other guys.
I agree with you. Mostly, those names are thrown in there with Schaub's, in my post, because they are all up and coming quarterbacks that have great potential to be something. I would put Schaub, based in what she's shown as of now, ahead of all of the young guys. I would say: 1. Peyton 2. Brady 3. Brees 4. Roethlisberger 5. Rivers 6. Cutler 7. Warner 8. Eli 9. Palmer 10. Schaub 11. McNabb 12. Romo 13. Matt Ryan 14. Cassell 15. Rodgers I think Warner is in a very good system with very good receivers, and that's why he's ranked so high.. I may be leaving someone off though...
that is ESPN nation for you. no knowledge of anything other than peyton manning, tom brady, kobe, the yankees, and the red sox. My list.. 1 Drew Brees 2 Peyton Manning 3 Tom Brady 4 Kurt Warner 5 Eli Manning 6 Philip Rivers 7 Donovan McNabb 8 Matt Schaub 9 Ben Roethlisberger 10 Carson Palmer
I'd say he is 15th or so. 1 Tom Brady 2 Peyton Manning 3 Drew Brees 4 Kurt Warner 5 Donovan McNabb 6 Tony Romo 7 Eli Manning 8 Ben Roethlisberger 9 Phillip Rivers 10 Carson Palmer 11 Kerry Collins 12 Chad Pennington 13 Matt Ryan 14 David Garrard 15 Matt Schaub Jay Cutler is way overrated. His QB rating has actually dropped each year. He has managed to lead the Broncos to 2-3, 7-9, 8-8. They were a playoff team the 3 years before he got there, and were 7-5 when he took over for Plummer.
