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Bryce Petty?

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  1. MadMax

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    that escalated quickly.
     
  2. whag00

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    LOL. $16 million/ yr for Hoyer. That's some serious quarterback inflation.
     
  3. Dubious

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    I'm on the Petty bandwagon, I guess because i watch all his games and not necessarily the other QB. Prospects. He's a Luck clone to me. But just for the sake of interest here is Walter Footballs current rankings.

    2015 NFL Draft Prospects: Quarterbacks


    The top 2015 quarterback prospects available for the 2015 NFL Draft. *

    Marcus Mariota*, QB, Oregon
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 219.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.65.
    Projected Round (2015): Top-10 Pick.
    10/4/14: Four games into the season, Mariota has completed 74 percent of his passes for 1,135 yards with 13 touchdowns and zero interceptions. The junior has three rushing touchdowns, too.

    In Week 2, Mariota made some huge, clutch passes and runs to lead the Ducks back from a deficit to beat Michigan State. Against the Spartans, he completed 17-of-28 passes for 318 yards with three touchdowns. Mariota showed some pocket-passing ability, but he still needs development there. Still, Mariota showed his strong arm, athleticism, and toughness. He also did a great job of protecting the football. It was an impressive performance from Mariota.

    8/27/14: There is no denying that Mariota has a great physical skill set and is a tremendous athlete with rare mobility. He is a dangerous running threat. Mariota needs work to develop as a pocket passer for the NFL, but he has the arm, size and height to live in the pocket. Mariota needs to continue to refine his footwork, throwing mechanics, ball placement and field vision. However, the redshirt junior is a natural at throwing on the run and has big-play ability.

    In 2013, Mariota completed 64 percent of his passes for 3,665 yards with 31 touchdowns and four interceptions. On the ground, the redshirt sophomore ran for 715 yards with nine touchdowns. While Mariota did a great job of avoiding throwing picks, he had some issues with fumbles.

    Mariota did a good job of running Oregon's high-scoring attack in 2012. The redshirt freshman completed 68 percent of his passes for 2,677 yards with 32 touchdowns and six interceptions. He also ran for 898 yards (752 net) with five touchdowns.

    Mariota needs to use 2014 to show the NFL that he has the skills to thrive as a pocket passer.

    Personal: From Hawaii. Majoring in human physiology. Son of Toa Mariota and Alana Deppe-Mariota.


    Jameis Winston**, QB, Florida State
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 230.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
    Projected Round (2014): Top-10 Pick.
    10/4/14: Winston has played well in 2014, but he has hurt his draft stock with major off-the-field issues. Winston was suspended against Clemson for shouting an explicit phrase from a viral internet video in the cafeteria. It isn't a crime, but it once again displays Winston's lack of judgment and maturity off the field. His suspension almost, and should have, cost his team a loss.

    In 2014, Winston has completed 70 percent of his passes for 991 yards with seven touchdowns and four interceptions. He had a so-so performance in the season opener against Oklahoma State. The sophomore made some uncharacteristic, bad decisions with the football, but also flashed his skill set as a pocket passer who can make all the throws for the NFL. Winston also had a highlight-reel 28-yard touchdown run. He led a furious comeback to beat N.C. State in a shootout.

    8/27/14: Winston took college football by storm in 2013 as the Heisman Trophy winner while leading Florida State to a National Championship. The redshirt freshman demonstrated a quality arm with well-developed passing ability. Winston completed 67 percent of his passes for 4,057 yards with 40 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. On the ground, he ran for 219 yards with four touchdowns.

    Winston is a rare athlete who is a natural passer. His field vision and decision-making were phenomenal in 2013. It was extremely impressive for a first-year starter and is scary to think how good his field vision could be in the future as he gains more experience. He also showed incredible poise for a young player. Winston is a rare talent.

    Personal: Winston has had some off-the-field problems, including an investigation into a sexual assault and a theft at a Publix grocery store. He also has pitched for Florida State's baseball team. His focus and maturity will be questioned by NFL teams.




    Connor Cook*, QB, Michigan State
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 218.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.85.
    Projected Round (2015): 1-2.
    10/4/14: In 2014, Cook has completed 69 percent of his passes for 837 yards with nine touchdowns and two interceptions.

    Against Oregon, the junior finished 29-of-47 for 343 yards with two scores and two picks. One interception wasn't his fault, but the other was a bad throw. It wasn't a perfect game, but Cook showed a lot of what the pros are looking for. He proved to NFL evaluators that he has a big arm, pocket presence, the mobility to avoid rushers and roll out, and the ability to make some precision throws. Cook plays in a pro-style system and has shown steady improvement with his ability to function out of the pocket while working through his progressions.

    8/27/14: 2013 was Cook's first year as the full-time starter, and he got off to a slow start before coming on strong in the second half of the season to help lead the Spartans to a Big Ten title and victory over Stanford in the Rose Bowl. Cook completed 58.7 percent of his passes for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions for the year. He had great games against Ohio State (24-40 for 304 with 3 touchdowns, 1 interception) and Stanford (22-36 for 332 yards with 2 touchdown, 1 interception) to close out the season.

    Cook is generally a good decision-maker who has the size, arm and field vision to be a good pocket passer. He should be even better now that he has a year of experience. Becoming a first-round prospect isn't out of the question for Cook, but skipping the 2015 NFL Draft and returning for his senior season of college football could help him achieve that.


    Brett Hundley*, QB, UCLA
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 227.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
    Projected Round (2015): 1-3.
    10/4/14: Entering the season, scouting sources across a number of NFL teams agreed that UCLA junior quarterback Brett Hundley was physically talented with upside, but they felt that he was inconsistent and overrated. Hundley did nothing to dispel that in the season opener against Virginia. He completed 20-of-33 passes for 242 yards and ran for 39 yards on 15 carries with a score. Hundley was then knocked out of the game against Texas with an injury to his non-throwing elbow (left).

    When Hundley came back to the field, he picked a great time to have the best performance of his collegiate career and maybe start the process of changing minds in the scouting community. He showed huge improvements with his pocket passing, field division, decision-making and working through his progressions in that massive game against Arizona State. He was 18-of-23 for 355 yards with four touchdowns while running for 72 yards on eight carries.

    To start 2014, Hundley has completed 72 percent of his passes for 1,041 yards with seven touchdowns and one interception. He has two rushing touchdowns as well.

    8/27/14: As a redshirt freshman in 2012, Hundley led the Bruins' revival and helped get his team to the Pac-12 Championship Game. He completed 66 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,740 yards with 29 touchdowns and 11 interceptions, plus ran for 702 yards (355 net) with nine touchdowns. Hundley scored on a 72-yard touchdown run against Rice on his first play that year. He threw for 372 yards against a good Oregon State team and finished the year with 329 yards and three touchdowns versus Baylor.

    Hundley completed 67 percent of his passes in 2013 for 3,071 yards with 24 touchdowns and nine interceptions. On the ground, he ran for 970 yards (748 net) and 11 scores. Hundley led a furious comeback for a huge road win at Nebraska. In a win over Utah, he showed off his athletic ability when he caught a touchdown, ran for a touchdown and threw for a touchdown. Hundley struggled versus Stanford, but he played better against Oregon than his numbers indicated.

    The UCLA coaching staff has a lot of NFL experience and is grooming Hundley well for the next level. He fits in the mold of athletic quarterbacks with good arms. Hundley has room for improvement, but he has the potential to rise high.

    Personal: Undeclared major. Son of Brett, Sr. and April Hundley.


    Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 214.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.76.
    Projected Round (2015): 1-3.
    10/4/14: In 2014, Mannion has completed 63 percent of his passes for 1,026 yards with four touchdowns and four interceptions. He had an ugly game against USC where he demonstrated significant ineffectiveness when forced to move off of his spot in the pocket.

    8/27/14: Over three seasons as a starter, Mannion has improved his passing skills. He lit up Pac-12 defenses in 2013 as he completed 66.3 percent of his passes for 4,662 yards with 37 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. Mannion needs to improve his anticipation. He started the season strong before having some ugly games in November against USC, Arizona State and Washington. He is prone to hold on to the ball too long as he took 25 sacks as a junior and 24 sacks as a freshman (12 as a sophomore).

    In 2012, Mannion completed 65 percent of his passes for 2,446 yards with 15 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. He became the Beavers' starting quarterback in 2011. The redshirt freshman completed 65 percent of his passes for 3,328 yards with 16 touchdowns and 18 interceptions.

    There are three things that Mannion must improve in order to have a shot at being a first-round pick. They are: accuracy, anticipation and footwork. Mannion's rough stretch last November can be attributed to those weaknesses. His interceptions came on inaccurate passes, and his feet weren't always in rhythm. He also needs to play better against his elite opponents and not just rack up numbers against weak teams.

    Personal: Son of John and Inga. Sean is a coach's kid as his father is a high school football coach.






    Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 220.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
    Projected Round (2015): 2-4.
    10/4/14: In speaking with NFL sources, they identified Grayson as a sleeper prospect who has really impressed them. Grayson has a strong arm that can make all the throws. He displays some good accuracy at times, but needs to get more consistent. Grayson has some mobility to make throws on the run. His character receives good marks as he is viewed as a good teammate with leadership skills.

    To start out 2014, Grayson has completed 61 percent of his passes for 1,261 yards with 10 touchdowns and four interceptions. He threw for over 400 yards in back-to-back games against Boise State and UC Davis. He helped lead a comeback win over Boston College on the road.

    In 2013, Grayson completed 62 percent of his passes for 3,696 yards with 23 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.

    Personal: Son of Brad and Jody Grayson. Majoring in communications. Uncle Danny Grayson was an All-American linebacker at Washington State and was drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the seventh round of the 1990 NFL Draft.


    Dak Prescott*, QB, Mississippi State
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 230.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
    Projected Round (2015): 3-4.
    10/4/14: Prescott has been excellent in the early going of 2014. His play has been somewhat reminiscent of Tim Tebow at Florida because Prescott is playing in the same offense for Tebow's former offensive coordinator, Dan Mullen, the Mississippi State head coach. In 2014, Prescott has completed 60 percent of his passes for 964 yards with 11 touchdowns and two interceptions. On the ground, he has averaged 6.1 yards per carry for 378 yards and three touchdowns. Like Tebow, Prescott needs to improve his pocket passing and accuracy.

    In 2013, Prescott completed 58 percent of his passes for 940 yards with 10 touchdowns and seven interceptions.

    Personal: Son of Nathan and the late Peggy Prescott. Majoring in educational psychology.


    Kevin Hogan*, QB, Stanford
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 220.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
    Projected Round (2015): 3-5.
    10/4/14: Hogan has completed 71 percent of his passes for 883 yards with eight touchdowns and two interceptions. He has two rushing touchdowns, too. Hogan is still streaky as a passer, looking inept at times and throwing excellent passes on other attempts. He needs to become more consistent and should return to Stanford for his senior year.

    8/23/14: Hogan wasn't as good as expected in 2013 as Stanford's passing attack was underwhelming. For the year, he completed 61 percent of his passes for 2,630 yards with 20 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Hogan averaged 4.5 yards per carry for 314 yards on the ground with two touchdowns, too. Stanford seemed to trust him less and less as the season wore on. Hogan is capable of making some great throws and has a good skill set, but he needs to become more consistent.

    In an upset over Oregon, the redshirt junior made some clutch throws for the Cardinal. He had a letdown in a road loss at USC, but bounced back to a degree against Arizona State and UCLA. Hogan was wise to return to the Cardinal for 2014.

    Hogan started out 2012 as a backup before taking over from Josh Nunes. The change paid off as Hogan played excellent football down the stretch. He completed 72 percent of his passes for 1,096 yards with nine touchdowns and three interceptions in 2012.

    Hogan (6-4, 220) should get better with experience. He showed real passing talent with accuracy and a strong arm.

    Personal: Majoring in science, technology and society. Son of Donna and Jerry Hogan.




    Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 230.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
    Projected Round (2015): 4-6.
    10/4/14: WalterFootball.com knows that multiple NFL teams view Petty as a third-day prospect despite the hype from some draft pundits.

    The view of league contacts was justified by Petty's performance in the 2014 season opener. His accuracy was bad as he missed a lot of wide-open receivers that any NFL quarterback has to connect with. Petty finished 13-of-23 for 161 yards with two touchdowns in the air and ran for a touchdown. After missing a game with an injury, Petty played better against Buffalo and Iowa State.

    Petty has completed 65 percent of his passes for 913 yards with seven touchdowns and one interception. He needs to show improvement in his pocket passing and accuracy.

    8/27/14: 2013 was an impressive debut season for Petty as Baylor's starting quarterback. The dual-threat quarterback could definitely improve as a pocket passer now that he has gained a year of experience. Petty completed 62 percent of his passes last year for 4,200 yards with 32 touchdowns and three interceptions. He ran for 339 yards and 14 touchdowns as well. Petty backed up Robert Griffin III and Nick Florence for three seasons.

    Personal: Son of Todd and Dena Petty. Graduated in May of 2013 with a degree in health science studies.


    Bo Wallace, QB, Ole Miss
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 217.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
    Projected Round (2015): 4-6.
    10/4/14: Wallace has completed 71 percent of his passes for 1,271 yards with 11 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has lit up weak opponents, but has sometimes broken down when he playing a good team. Throughout his career, Wallace has been prone to interceptions, often at bad times.

    In 2013, Wallace completed 65 percent of his passes for 3,346 yards with 18 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He completed 64 percent for 2,994 yards with 22 touchdowns and 17 interceptions in 2012.

    Personal: Son of Bill and Trina Wallace.


    Taylor Kelly, QB, Arizona State
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 203.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
    Projected Round (2015): 4-6.
    10/4/14: Kelly has completed 62 percent of his passes for 625 yards with six touchdowns and zero interceptions. He also has done damage with his legs as he has two touchdowns. Kelly missed the game against UCLA with an injured foot, and that could keep him out for more games.

    8/27/14: Kelly took over as the starting quarterback in 2012 to replace Brock Osweiler and has played well for the Sun Devils across the past two seasons. In 2013, Kelly threw for 3,635 yards with 28 touchdowns and 12 interceptions while completing 62 percent of his passes. He also hurt defenses on the ground with 852 yards and nine touchdowns.

    The previous season, Kelly completed 67 percent of his passes for 3,039 yards with 29 touchdowns and nine interceptions. He has to improve his pocket passing and field vision. Kelly also has been sacked 70 times the past two years and needs to improve on avoiding negative yardage plays.
    http://walterfootball.com/draft2015QB.php
     
  4. sammy

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    Round 4-6 grade? He hasn't been healthy since this past week (his words) and it showed. What a beast.
     
  5. Remii

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    If the Texans go after Hoyer _ they better get Kyle Shanahan in the deal as well...
     
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    Way-too-early Mock Draft

    16. Houston Texans - Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State: Veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick can keep the Texans from finishing with the league's worst record but he's clearly not the long-term answer and there has been little indication to this point that fourth round pick Tom Savage is either. Scouts are intrigued by Cook's confidence, poise and strong arm and Bill O'Brien would know him well.
     
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    Projected to go in the 4th to 6th round? That's inaccurate...unless he totally just sucks for the remainder of the year. Like, really really sucks.
     
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    I watched Baylor/TCU. It seemed like 85% of his passes were either quick hitters at the line of scrimmage or randomly taking shots down field. He has nice touch on the deep ball, but most of the time he seemed like he wasn't reading the defense and was chucking it just to chuck it, sometimes in to double/triple coverage. There were a couple times where you could tell he saw his receiver get a step before deciding to throw it though. Didn't see much out of the intermediate pass game, which IMO gives you a better clue about how successful a QB will be in the NFL. He missed some receivers. He put the ball in a couple of bad spots that didn't allow the receiver to do anything after the catch. He threw a Pick 6.

    He doesn't suck, and he's not a 4-6th rounder, but I don't see him as a 1st round QB either.
     
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    Would be ecstatic if would could nap Cook in the 1st round. But with the way he's playing, he'll be flying up draft boards. Hundley may be a more realistic option but like others were saying, it's way too early.
     
  10. Teen Wolf

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    Not looking so hot today:(
     
  11. Remii

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    Marcus may end up being the only quarterback drafted in the 1st round (if Winston doesn't come out).

    A lot of these other names being thrown out may be available in the 2nd round and beyond.
     
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    Hasn't looked too bad ... officiating in this game has been horrendous ... 14/26 200yrds 2 TD's so far isn't terrible but WV is bringing it .
     
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    His accuracy has been off all year.
     
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    Cook and Hundley have a decent shot at the first round. Those are two guys I can see the Texans looking closely at. Everyone else is 2nd round or later like you said (Mannion, Grayson, Hogan, Prescott, Petty, Wallace, etc).
     
  15. Remii

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    I can see Cook and Hundley dropping too... Back of the 1st round like Teddy Bridgewater maybe. But the Texans are probably not going to be drafting a quarterback in the 1st round since they traded for Mallet.
     
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    Mallett isn't even playing for a team that desperately needs a QB. You think the Texans wouldn't draft a QB in the 1st, if there's one to be had, because of a guy they traded a 7th rounder for who hasn't played in 3 1/2 years and can't supplant Ryan Fitzpatrick? They might not even bother re-signing him.
     
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    I think you could be right, I think he's nothing but insurance so that we wouldn't have to throw Savage out there in the event of Fitz getting hurt.
     
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    They're working with Mallett. I don't think he can't supplant Fitzpatrick. O'Brien is paying a lot of attention to him. I think the hope is that either Mallett or Savage will be the guy. But if they're not sold over the next several weeks then they'll have no problem going after Hoyer or targeting Cook, Hundley, Mariota, etc. in the draft.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-texans/post/_/id/8122/a-ryan-mallett-update-from-bill-obrien

    "He’s really worked hard," O'Brien said. "He’s had a good week of practice this week. He’s got good command out there, both in the huddle and at the line of scrimmage. He’s working to be more consistent on a day to day basis with throwing the ball and accuracy. He’s got a fantastic arm. He’s worked very hard to get better and better at all the different throws that we ask him to make, and he’s definitely where we want him to be. We just need him to keep working to get better. He’s worked very hard. He’s been here early, stayed late. Been a big help on game day on the sideline.

    "There’s two things that I saw with Ryan. The transition was smoother because he knew the offense, at least the basis of it, and he had worked with myself and George Godsey before. I think the other thing you see is he obviously took some great things from backing up Tom Brady for three years. His command in the huddle, his command at the line of scrimmage, his knowledge of little things within the offense, you can see that. So it’s been good to see that."
     
  19. Remii

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    I think Mallet will get an extension because O'Brien may believe he can make a quarterback out of him...

    I also think O'Brien may not think any of these dudes will be worth a 1st round pick. Come draft time these quarterbacks will be dissected to death by the NFL. We go through this every year with these quarterbacks. A lot of these guys people are naming now will be there in the 2nd round.
     
  20. whag00

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    Speaking of Baylor prospects Shawn Oakman has played himself out of the first round as well with his disappearing act.
     

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