Bryce Drew instead of Rashard Lewis... The MISTAKE

Turckan is on the Knicks roster, that is the problem. They have too many players in front of him. He gets no PT. If he were somewhere else, he would possibly get off the pine.

I don't think we made a mistake with Drew. He has played well for us. But retooling the offense and the acquisition of Francis has made the transition hard for Drew.

I also am not convinced with Rashard's talents. He is more athletic than Drew naturally, but he doesn't see many minutes for Seattle. Seattle is far from a powerhouse and far from being a deep team at Rashard's position, so I ma not sure why Westphal is not playing him much. Could be attitude? Maybe his age and inexperience? Not sure, maybe he is just not that good.

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HOOP-T

Hey Shaq, Acme called, and they want their bricks back!

 

Turckan (sp?) is on the Bucks last I checked. I do know he was waived by the Knicks.

But what is the point of this thread. No crap Lewis would have been a better pick. We should have picked a lot of other players as well.

This has been rehashed over and over. It's done with.

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Is it any coincidence that we are the only NBA (sorry for any confusion regarding my earlier signature, I do realize that the Braves and Stars are both mentioned in the national anthem) team mentioned in the national anthem?

I didn't think so!

 

Before you start an avalanche of Turskan sux, let me add a little CD rationalization to this:

We had 3 1st round picks. Turskan agreed before we picked him to go to Europe for a year. There was no real ability for us to fit 3 1st rounders into Hakeem/Pippen/Barkley/Othella team without cutting someone, especially considering Mobley was made the team as well, and we desparately needed big, fat men off the bench for Hack-a-Shaq in the playoffs.

Turskan's willingness to practice in Europe I'm sure was a major consideration in salary room and roster room.

Fact is: Lewis was a questionable 1st rounder. Besides, your argument would have a less hometown feel to it if you would have titled the thread:

"Bryce Drew instead of Al Harrington...THE MISTAKE"

[This message has been edited by heypartner (edited April 07, 2000).]

 

Thanks for jogging the ol memory Rocketman95, you are right, he was waived by the Knicks and picked up by Milwaukee....and still getting few minutes.

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HOOP-T

Hey Shaq, Acme called, and they want their bricks back!

 

on Axeman's behalf:

oohhhh burn, court adjourned

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Hey,

Speaking of stats in today's paper, did you see that Feigan has Moochie at 2.9 steals per game. That can't possibly be correct?!

 

Shoulda. Woulda. Coulda.

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The lottery sucks!

 

Well, I think you also half to consider that it wasn't necesarilly just chat room gossip that the Rocket were going to pick up Lewis. I mean, they had made strong implications that he was their guy. They even kept the camera on him during all the Rockets picks cause they just assumed they knew what was coming. And so did he. You saw his reaction. He was humiliated and crushed. I would be. It's kind of sad because the Rockets completely burned their bridges with the kid.
But even so, it would have been very nice to have a forward of his age and possible upside on the team right now. That would be one less void to fill, and he'd have a couple years experience under Hakeem and Chuck's wing. Now would be his chance to break out.

But hey, Pimp said it. Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda. Sometimes you blow a shot at Jordan, Hakeem, and Drexler. And sometimes you win a championship with a crazy trade on Valentines Day.

It only makes sense when it's all over.

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"There are three kinds of lies:
Lies, Damned Lies, and STATISTICS..."
- Mark Twain -

 

Outlaw, regarding Pippen,

I meant to say come pre-season, the 4 picks were going to have trouble making the team with or without Pippen, so you want someone you know will not sign with you right away like a European. (You retain draft rights on players if they don't sign. However, if they sign and get cut, you lose them.) Plus, who's to say the Rockets didn't have an under-the-table agreement with the Bulls before the lock-out.

Regarding Turcksan, I guess I do remember differently than you. I just seem to remember something about CD wanting him to continue playing in Europe for a year or so more...I guess I'm wrong.

But not wrong about Al Harrington (also taken after Drew) is better than Rashard Lewis...where's my tomato...I need to get Axeman's attention here.

 

I'd agree with you Freak if I were not to look at our roster that year. However we had Brent Price and Matt Maloney, and I THINK we still had email at the time too. I'm not even going to act like I know more than NBA scouts BUT there are certain players that I know will not be that sucessful and also the opposite of that. When Rashard was coming out I knew he was a project, KG strugled horribly his first year and wasn't too much better his second year, McGrady was riding the pine till last year, O'neal still hasn't been getting any PT(he deserves it, just not on that team), Kemp didn't really do anything his first two years either, Kobe was the only one who showed his promise right away(although he was nothing more than a jacker at the time). So I expected this, on the flip side of the coin I was pissed when we drafted Homers son and Mirsad, I was a little bit pleased when we got a first rounder for as Clutch put it a long time ago, the evil twin of Doogie Houser. To this day I still am confused as why we drafted Drew!? Maloney ran the point a 100X better than Drew and was a better shooter(i hated Baloney too so this is painful for me to say.) Oh well at least we made up for it with Cat in the second.

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"We need to fockass".....Dream back in the day

 

No matter what you guys think the Rockets should of done in the draft, doesn't amount to a hill of beans. It is really easy to look back at things and see how you would do them differently.... you can't fault the Rockets for what they thought was the smarter pick...And, honestly we will have to wait a few more years before actually determining which is the better pick, cannot do it after just two years.

Most importantly, the Rockets more than made up for any mistakes you may believe they made in the draft... by stealing a great player at the 44th pick of the second round:

Cuttino Mobley....

That alone show the Rockets know what they are doing...

 

So, does Rocketball represent a new Police squad:

"Dream Police"
"Serious Police"
"Spelling Police"

and now the:
"Hindsight Police"

 

OH,,, forgot to repeat myself,

"Bryce Drew instead of Al Harrington...The MISTAKE"

forget Lewis.

 

I am with Axeman on this one. Sure hindsight is 20/20. But I still believe the Rockets made a bad decision passing up Rashard.

It can also be said that the Rockets made a great decision by getting the steal of the draft in Mobley.

However, selecting Turkan over Rashard Lewis was highly questionable. I guess the jury is still out as we have not received our draft compensation in the Turkan trade.


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"There is Francis backpedaling at full speed to guard Seattle All-Star Gary Payton on a fast break and then leaping as if off a springboard to make a spectacular fingertip block on what appeared to be a sure layup."

 

Maybe we can rectify the situation by signing him in the offseason?

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Blaming the Rockets for not taking a player that NOBODY selected in the first round, and who's done nothing as of yet to show that he should've been a first-rounder. That is just stupid. Why don't we go back and look at all the 2nd-round picks that no other teams took in the first round, and wonder how the Rockets could've been so dumb as to pass on all those guys? Oops, I'm sure there's already been a thread about that.

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Heypatner your memory is hazy.

Turkcan did not agree to go to Europe for his rookie year as you claim. He only did so because he got impatient with the lockout and didn't think it would be resolved. And we didn't even have Pippen yet when we drafted him.

We drafted Dickerson/Drew/Turkcan/Mobley in June 1998 and we traded for Pip in January 1999.

[This message has been edited by outlaw (edited April 07, 2000).]