Boy Scouts will allow girls to join

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  1. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

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    Girl Scout groups have a lot of autonomy to decide what they want to do, and GS stresses more being self-led by the girls themselves from a younger age. But, from the parents who show up or volunteer, Cub Scouts tends to have more fathers and Girl Scouts more mothers. And when it comes to camping or outdoors stuff, the mothers are a bit less adventurous than the fathers. Even so, an adventurous volunteer running Girl Scouts has latitude to go more hardcore if that's what they want. Besides, an adventurous tomboy type that wants to get to do what the Boy Scouts do still has to find a handful of like-minded girls to form a Den. If they all want to shoot bows and **** in the woods, why not do that as a Girl Scout?
     
  2. geeimsobored

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    My wife used to work for BSA. Believe me, this news is terrible for GSA. Also, the single gender den thing is a little deceptive. Yes there will be separate dens but there's nothing preventing a pack from convening the boy and girl dens for meetings at the same time. If you want co-ed cub scouts, its really not difficult to do and it will happen. I can tell you that all of this has been discussed for years.

    Also, you have to recognize how radically different the content is. BSA councils own thousands of campsites across the US. GSA simply can't create the content and experience when it comes to outdoor activities. Recruiting in GSA has been falling off like a cliff and this will only speed it up. GSA was built in another era where female programming really consisted of a very limited set of activities. The actual content is wildly out of date in relation to what families are asking for. Most importantly, families like the idea of organizations that are inclusive of the family as a whole. I guarantee that BSA will poach entire units from GSA when they get older. There are already GSA units that convert to BSA Venturing units when the girls hit high school. You'll just start seeing more of that at younger levels.

    My hope is that both organizations just form a common venture and partner. GSA's hand has been forced by this and while the initial reaction has been negative, I know for a fact that when adding girls to scouts was proposed last year in BSA, that one of the options was forming a partnership with GSA and ultimately merging. Whether GSA considers that is a separate question but I think it has to happen.
     
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  3. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

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    This does seem like the most obvious thing.
     
  4. smitheygerard

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    I just don't understand the move. Why even bother calling it Boy Scouts?

    There is already venture scouts which is coed, and that system works perfectly fine. Why mess with it...
     
  5. geeimsobored

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    Because venturing isn't the same as Boy Scouts (or Cub Scouts). Venturing only starts at high school and has offerings built around the venturing leaders choices for what to focus on. It's not a structured program like Boy Scouts.

    And no it isn't perfectly fine. Boy Scout enrollment is falling, period. And there is more emphasis than ever on co-ed programs because families want offerings that all of their kids can attend. It is stupid to keep it split. If girls want to take part in scouting curriculum, then have at it. My wife's council dropped the "boy" in boy scouts years ago and all of their marketing just says "scouts." This has been in the works for a while now and its long overdue. They've focus group tested and polled this over and over. Families want options that will support all of their kids and are more likely to forgo gender specific programs. Also, cub scouts won't technically be co-ed. They'll just allow for dens for girls. In theory a pack can run meetings with dens of bother genders together but you can also find a pack that keeps them apart. That's really up to you.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    Unsure but It is just a feeling
    Then again . . .I don't think this will off set their diminishing membership
    so maybe in a few years they will give up the ghost

    Rocket River
     
  7. ipaman

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    Well someone has to cook and earn their kitchen badges.
     
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  8. Rocket River

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    Someone says EAGLE SCOUT is a major accomplishment and useful for college apps etc
    The Girl Scout equivalent is not as well respected

    Rocket River
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    This is very true. Helped one of my cousins get a solid scholarship.
     
  10. LosPollosHermanos

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    trump will fix this mess
     
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