Bolt the greatest track athlete in history?

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Is the Bolt the greatest track athlete in history

  1. yes

    70.3%
  2. No

    20.9%
  3. Do not know

    8.8%
  1. DreamShook

    DreamShook Member

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    I don't want it to be true, but I'm waiting for them to tell me he was doping all along.
     
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  2. KingCheetah

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    I know - the dude is literally a shell of himself no one falls off this hard in their prime.
     
  3. PhiSlammaJamma

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    All these records tend to fall. But he brought electricity and image to the event. If it it holds the test of time, then I'd put him down as greatest partly because of the achievement, and partly because of the entertainment he brought to it, especially in an era when nobody really cares about the olympics anymore. At least not like they did. His fall off at 30 would seem to indicate he's clean to me as I would think of that as natural for a track athlete, though honestly I don't know much about the dash and age drop off.
     
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  4. krosfyah

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    That's an interesting take I hadn't considered. Gatlin is a known juicer and look at his longevity. The big fallacy with PEDs is people think they make you stronger/faster, which isn't true. PEDs allow you to recover faster (so you can workout more or return from injury quicker). So if you can lift 7 days/wk without injury, you can get pretty buff. Bolt may be suffering the natural course of events at age 30 without PEDs.

    Going from 9.5 to 9.9 is not a "big drop off". It's one stride length. Running a 9.9 at age 30 is freaking impressive (for everybody not named Bolt). The dude still qualified for the finals of the World Championships making him top 8 in the world (and got 3rd place).

    If Bolt was running 11s, that is a big drop off and he wouldn't even qualify for Worlds.

    Oh, and Bolt is one of the greatest.
     
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  5. Buck Turgidson

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    I don't think anyone should be surprised if any pro athlete is proven to use PEDs.
     
  6. Bandwagoner

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    no it is totally true. you could inject anabolic steroids and be stronger without any extra exercise. it is why guys are stronger than girls
     
  7. daywalker02

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    He partied too hard.
     
  8. CCity Zero

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    Yes, most likely :) haha, reports are showing he was out partying after as well. I think unless he had planned on running the Olympics again he probably regressed more than normal because the 2016 event was really it.
     
  9. don grahamleone

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    To add to your point, Michael Johnson started slipping at age 30. He competed until he was 33, but he was a shell of his former self and was only good at the 400m towards the end meaning that his faster races were his weakness at that age. Johnson was never found to be using any illegal substances. I think it all adds up about right. I'm sure Bolt lost his love for training thus his slower times recently. That was a nice farewell race he just had, barely lost. It's poetic enough to walk out of the game with your head held high. Great athlete.
     
  10. daywalker02

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    Track and field lives off athleticism.

    Gatlin is 35.....lmao still strong
     
  11. Bandwagoner

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    Whenever you see someone doing something that has never been done before like 73 HR's or 7 TdF wins at a sport as basic and old as running, the dude was on something.
     
  12. pirc1

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    Or a once in a life time freaky gifted athlete, look at Bolt, have you ever seen a 100m athlete build like him?
     
  13. KingCheetah

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    Top 100 times - red line through those caught doping.
     
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  14. pirc1

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    Until proven he doped, I am taking his word that he never doped.
     
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  15. Buck Turgidson

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    I never saw a cyclist like Lance Armstrong, or a hitter like Bonds, or an Olympian like [insert athlete here].
     
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    I'm going to have to assumed he was doping
     
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    Interesting interview on high level doping.
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    "Marion Jones, for example...trained with a high level of intensity."
     
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    as a houstonian, i am compelled to vote for carl lewis
     
  20. DreamShook

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    Bolt didn't finish 4x100, pulled up lame.

    What a way to go out...
     
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