BO'B's Offense: When has it worked properly?

Also, why do they call him the quarterback whisperer? He seems to yell at them an awful lot.

 

When we had Arian Foster.

Actually even then it was quite boring.

 

It works in those midseason divisional games against the Titans/Jags where he puts 4-5 touchdowns on em.

 

Seriously, getting sick of that s***. Complicated is not a virtue, need to see some results, not fantasies. "If we all just believed hard enough..."

 

I think fitz was the best in the system

 

Hopefully it's letting you know that this was a dumb idea for a thread.

 

What system? I haven't seen him implement it yet. Maybe it was a personnel issue but now he has the QB. No more excuses.

 

when he whispered to brady like giselle and bridget do and rose brady to greatness. the funny thing is when Yates came back, he had him rolling out bootlegging for that game against the bengals you thought kubiak was on the sidelines same thing for keenum.
I like his fire as a head coach.

 

It's all Ricks or Brock's or McNairs fault.

Dude has wasted no time leaking blame to everyone but himself

 

It is so complicated it can't be run. That just makes no sense to me. What works matters.

 

Remember the first 2 games of the season when our offense was on fire and fuller going off maybe that was it at it's peak.

 

And of course just like everyone else, not sure what the hell went wrong after that. Maybe Brock hit his head?

 

It's hard to blame the man's system, when the qbs he had were literal sht tier. Now that we traded our future for a potential franchise qb, let's see what he can do with Watson. I give BOB the benefit of the doubt, he hasn't post a losing season yet.

Pretty impressive, for a man's system that doesn't really work, to still pull of wins.

 

Same thing as in every year; they spend 3-4 months getting ready for the start of the season, then the hist hits the fan, other teams make adjustments and it all falls apart...

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/22/tom-brady-patriots-charlie-weis-option-routes

But this isn’t a story about Brady's ascension, which has him headed to his 10th conference championship game. This is about a perfect marriage between a QB and an offense—an offense that, if executed correctly, is almost unstoppable. Take any of the herky-jerky option routes that ace slotman Julian Edelman converted into 10 catches for 100 yards against Kansas City. “I’ve played in a lot of different offenses,” says QB Brian Hoyer, who after starting his career in New England landed this season with Houston. “[The Patriots’] system is a hybrid of all of them. It’s very intricate, but if you have guys who can do it well, it’s the best. And if, in that offense, you have the best QB ever to play the game? Well.... ”

At the heart of that system is the responsibility heaped upon the QB’s shoulders. That starts with the “alert” system, in which most play calls are essentially two-in-one. There’s the original call, plus an alternate that gets put into motion if the D aligns a certain way. Brady yells, “Alert!” to make the switch. (The Patriots didn’t need an alert call against the Chiefs until Steven Jackson’s two-yard run with 11:47 left in the fourth quarter—that’s how attuned coordinator Josh McDaniels was to his play-calls.) In New England there are also “look” passes: run plays that are converted to quick dump-offs should Brady see a corner playing well off a receiver. (Most offenses now include some form of this.)

But what truly separates the Patriots’ system is the extensive combination of receiver route adjustments, based on the defense or a defender’s positioning, that all pass catchers—even running backs—have to know. Most offenses include at least a sprinkling of option routes designed, essentially, to use a defense against itself. But New England’s offense is built on them.

“At times there are four decisions that a receiver needs to make after the snap,” Chad O’Shea, New England’s receivers coach since 2009, explained in the lead-up to Super Bowl XLVI, a loss to the Giants. “That’s one advantage of our offense: We give players the flexibility to take what the defense gives.”

That complexity can prove maddening for rookies and veterans imported from other teams who are trying to learn the system. Consider: Since taking Deion Branch (round 2) and David Givens (round 7) in 2002, the Patriots’ track record at drafting receivers has been abysmal. Since then they’ve selected eight wideouts in the fifth round or higher, 11 overall. And from Bethel Johnson (round 2, ’03) to Aaron Dobson (round 2, ’13), almost all failed. The only success story: a seventh-rounder in ’09 named Julian Edelman. “You know why he made it, right?” Weis asks of the player who after missing seven games with a broken foot revived a stagnant offense last Saturday. “Because he was a college quarterback. He thinks like a quarterback. He’s really sharp.” (New England’s success rate in free agency might be even worse: David Terrell, ’05; Joey Galloway, ’09; Chad Ochocinco, ’11; Reggie Wayne, ’15....)

So, what kind of receiver does work in this offense? What does it take? In short, smarts—and practice. “I use the example of Deion Branch and the hours of work he put in with [Brady],” says Texans coach Bill O'Brien, who worked on the Patriots’ O from 2007 through ’11 and brought the system to Houston in ’14. “I’d say the same thing about [Rob] Gronkowski. During Gronk’s rookie year, [Brady] would keep that kid after practice for hours. We’d say, ‘Tom, you’re going to kill this guy.’ ”

Making things even harder for modern-day Patriots is the sheer volume of material that has been layered on since those nascent days under Weis (who, to be fair, didn't exactly invent the whole scheme—he built on a system that New England assistants Ron Erhardt and Ray Perkins created in the 1970s and then brought to the Giants, where Weis learned it in the early '90s). When Weis left for Notre Dame, he had in his playbook 50 individual routes, 29 two-man routes, 11 three-man combinations and four miscellaneous routes. Later, McDaniels took over as offensive coordinator and put his spin on the playbook, as did O’Brien after McDaniels left to coach the Broncos in ’09. (McDaniels returned to run New England’s offense in ’12.) When O'Brien arrived in Houston last year, his first Texans playbook included 109 individual routes, 110 two-man combinations, 67 three-man concepts and 44 miscellaneous routes. “Charlie installed [this offense],” says Hoyer, but “from seeing old call sheets, watching old film, it was very toned down. Now it’s nowhere near where it was in 2000, with the alerts and all that stuff. Brady ... is constantly adding stuff.”




so yeah,,,,,,,,it's pretty complicated.

 

Fitz v Titans.