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[Bloomberg] Medical Fascism Hidden in the “Stimulus” Package?

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  1. BetterThanEver

    BetterThanEver Contributing Member

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    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

    Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan: Betsy McCaughey


    Feb. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Republican Senators are questioning whether President Barack Obama’s stimulus bill contains the right mix of tax breaks and cash infusions to jump-start the economy.

    Tragically, no one from either party is objecting to the health provisions slipped in without discussion. These provisions reflect the handiwork of Tom Daschle, until recently the nominee to head the Health and Human Services Department.

    Senators should read these provisions and vote against them because they are dangerous to your health. (Page numbers refer to H.R. 1 EH, pdf version).

    The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial. It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors.

    But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

    Keeping doctors informed of the newest medical findings is important, but enforcing uniformity goes too far.

    New Penalties

    Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face penalties. “Meaningful user” isn’t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time” (511, 518, 540-541)

    What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or you need an experimental treatment? The vagueness is intentional. In his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make the “tough” decisions elected politicians won’t make.

    The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

    Elderly Hardest Hit

    Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.

    Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).

    The Federal Council is modeled after a U.K. board discussed in Daschle’s book. This board approves or rejects treatments using a formula that divides the cost of the treatment by the number of years the patient is likely to benefit. Treatments for younger patients are more often approved than treatments for diseases that affect the elderly, such as osteoporosis.

    In 2006, a U.K. health board decreed that elderly patients with macular degeneration had to wait until they went blind in one eye before they could get a costly new drug to save the other eye. It took almost three years of public protests before the board reversed its decision.

    Hidden Provisions

    If the Obama administration’s economic stimulus bill passes the Senate in its current form, seniors in the U.S. will face similar rationing. Defenders of the system say that individuals benefit in younger years and sacrifice later.

    The stimulus bill will affect every part of health care, from medical and nursing education, to how patients are treated and how much hospitals get paid. The bill allocates more funding for this bureaucracy than for the Army, Navy, Marines, and Air Force combined (90-92, 174-177, 181).

    Hiding health legislation in a stimulus bill is intentional. Daschle supported the Clinton administration’s health-care overhaul in 1994, and attributed its failure to debate and delay. A year ago, Daschle wrote that the next president should act quickly before critics mount an opposition. “If that means attaching a health-care plan to the federal budget, so be it,” he said. “The issue is too important to be stalled by Senate protocol.”

    More Scrutiny Needed

    On Friday, President Obama called it “inexcusable and irresponsible” for senators to delay passing the stimulus bill. In truth, this bill needs more scrutiny.

    The health-care industry is the largest employer in the U.S. It produces almost 17 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product. Yet the bill treats health care the way European governments do: as a cost problem instead of a growth industry. Imagine limiting growth and innovation in the electronics or auto industry during this downturn. This stimulus is dangerous to your health and the economy.
     
  2. fmullegun

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    That sucks.


    But I think we all knew that we would have some kinda change in our medical system (most advanced in the world) after the election instead of doing the hard thing and actually bringing in the pharmacy companies and holding their feet to the fire for lower costs.
     
  3. rimrocker

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    Ugh. I was waiting for this to show up here... well, at least it wasn't by one of the usual suspects.

    OK, here we go...

    The National Coordinator of Health Information Technology is not new and in fact was created by W in 2004.

    http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache...335&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a

    Here's the language from the bill...
    Notice there's not one thing that would lead any rational human into thinking like the author of this screed. It's all about technology and delivering info to doctors quicker and better so they can make better decisions.

    I could go on, as there are several other errors in the piece, but really, what's the point. This has already been trumpeted by Drudge, Rush, and Fox so the people that believe this crap regardless of the facts are already infected.
     
  4. ghettocheeze

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    The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

    ...and so we march along on the road to serfdom.

    The marxis cannot allow Americans to demand cutting edge medicine. Nope its too expensive so we must all settle for whatever comes cheap and in the bulk.

    What's next?

    The marxist will regulate which foods one can eat and ban those deemed too expensive for one man to consume all by himself?
     
  5. BetterThanEver

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    Anybody remember the 17 year old that died shortly after her insurance company died her transplant?

    That's the standard that Daschle is pushing the health industry towards.

    [​IMG]
     
  6. rimrocker

    rimrocker Contributing Member

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    I should point out that the original post left out this line from the link...

    Now, the title is there and the body is there, but somehow, the line between those two things did not make it.

    Why is that line important?

    She's been here before... during the Clinton health care reform push... from a 1995 article...
    (via Digby)
     
  7. rimrocker

    rimrocker Contributing Member

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    Please cite a source other than the above article or some variation thereof. Daschle's own words will do.

    Thanks.
     
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  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Considering that none of his ideas are in the available excerpt on Amazon, that will be kind of hard for him to do.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Daschle is quoted here:

    He stops short of saying the U.S. should have a U.K.-style, hard-and-fast rule on cost-effectiveness. But he does say the U.S. “won’t be able to make a significant dent in health-care spending without getting into the nitty-gritty of which treatments are the most clinically valuable and cost effective.”

    http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/11/20/tom-daschles-blueprint-for-health-reform/
     
  11. rimrocker

    rimrocker Contributing Member

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    All you have to do is search for terms like "plan."
     
  12. Invisible Fan

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    A dumb**** title like that is picking for a fight?
     
  13. BetterThanEver

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    medical fascism?

    well, it'd be better then pouring money down a hole I suppose.

     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Unfortunately, when I click on some of the more intriguing (to me) quotes containing the word "plan" or "nitty-gritty", I get this:

    "Amazon.com is pleased to offer customers the ability to view copyrighted material from books that are part of the Search Inside! program. To protect this copyrighted material, books are subject to publisher-approved page-viewing limits.

    The page you have requested is not available for viewing. For security purposes, we are not able to provide further information about why the page is unavailable."
     

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