Blade Runner 2049

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  1. Torn n Frayed

    Torn n Frayed Member

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    "I don't get it; Gosslin's been on screen this whole time and not 1 wise crack....and then Han Solo shows up and he's all old and Chewie is now a dog...TF is going on in this flick..."

    Eh. they were too smart for the room..
     
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  2. knote32

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    Exactly.

    It bums me out man. It means studios are going to put even less money out for hard Science Fiction. :oops:
     
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  3. Torn n Frayed

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    Well if they wait another 30 plus yrs to make the next film I bet by then we can all dream up our own vision of a sequel...!
     
  4. CCity Zero

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    Agree, I like movies like these a lot better. Leave the kids at home :)
     
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    Me too, man. Movies like this are the type of sci-fi I really enjoy. Don't get me wrong star wars etc is great (depending what episode :) ) but the darker Science Fiction is just a lot more interesting to me.
     
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  6. daywalker02

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    Long live Rick Deckard!
     
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    Deckard Contributing Member

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    If "they" wait another 30 years (35 years, actually) to make another sequel, one thing is for sure. Ridley Scott won't be involved. More's the pity.

    Hey, thought I would look up the box office and found some good news! Including ticket sales overseas, it's rung up $240 million bucks! That's not bad at all. Around 64% of the total is outside the United States, and it's still in theaters. The budget was about $150 million. Usually, promotion accounts for a lot more in production expenses, but considering how poorly it was promoted in the States, I have a feeling that the promo budget wasn't as large as might have been expected for such a big release. Given that there has yet to be pay per view, cable, network, streaming sales, and other earning potential I've probably forgotten, it'll likely hit $300 million, eventually. That might be enough to get a sequel made. After all, the original ended up being a cult classic, with millions made from DVD, Bluray, cable, etc. over the last 35 years. The film had legs. This one might, as well.

    I need to keep my blaster in tip-top shape. Look below. Not bad after 35 years!

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  8. Invisible Fan

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    It's definitely not for mass audiences. I liken it to the final director's cut off the original, which was great for fans but needed some timely cuts to speed up the pacing. The director is to blame for this. He was too caught up in taking still shots. His pacing is deliberate and meant to draw the audience into the movie like he did with Arrival.

    The other thing that doomed this domestically was how depressing the setting and story was. Escapism into Scifi/fantasy is in vogue as we live in uncertain times. San Diego being a third world trash heap, an iradiated Las Vegas, and a replicant rebellion that nuked la as a backdrop is as fun as reading about political analysis in Washington with no clear answers.

    Despite some lapses where I had to strain for attention(I didn't piece together the final twist), I really liked this movie. It's been ten years too long since I saw the directors cut but they leave in enough references to gently remind you along the way. Edward James Olmos with his electric sheep origami. The recordings of Deckard and Rachael. The city that kept a lot over 30 years. I would definitely watch and remember this more than I would, say the last 5 marvel movies.

    Even the relationship between Joe/K and Joi had undertones of the last movie even if the result was different. Whereas Deckard questioned the origin of Rachael's feelings, Joi turned out to be a derivative simulation that tugged K's emptiness. The movie did a good job playing off the loyal, but simple love interest trope the audience accepts implicitly into a deeper inspection over relationships into a future we feel like we're heading into. What's love to a human/sim/replicant?

    The story itself is also a big tribute to the original, which explains the title. The problem to that was that it made the other characters and the universe it's set in inconsequential. How old is Jared Letos character? He looked more cyborg than bill Gates tycoon. Do cyborgs, a la Ghost in the Shell have a higher status than skinjobs? Spending a little more time on Love's character could've fleshed out the dichotomy between the replicant fems and provided needed depth into a female role. What made her and the Wallace replicants different? What is their existential purpose if they are, as Wallace says, an empty vessel? What limited them from the Tyrells other than being obedient slaves?

    It's those limitations and the small scope of the mystery (for better or worse, audiences have been trained with Scifi that has epic consequences) that also hurt it's chances with the box office, which is unfortunate because it's a solid story that tries to grasp with the human condition, whatever that means for us and our future incarnations.
     
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  9. AvocadosToast

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    But have you ever used Avocado seeds as anal beads? It's liberating!!!!
     
  10. Ziggy

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    FINALLY saw it. Was always worried they'd be reaching to find a storyline with a sequel and reincorporate Deckard into it, but I was WRONG. Loved it. LOVED.
     
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    Denis ****ing Villeneuve. The dude is just too good.
     
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