Bill Gates on people misunderstanding climate change

modern day Luddites and Malthusians

green movement is about forced deprivation, controlling individual behavior, wealth redistribution

this thread is full of behavior modification schemes, presuming to tell others what they can and can't eat. scary if people like them ever get power

it's a very Soviet mentality

 

Interesting article:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesal...g-meat-bad-small-farm-good-it-s-not-so-simple

The article as a whole supports the idea that folks should eat less meat, but also makes the point that it is a very complex, nuanced issue. Surprisingly, the "industrially sourced meat" that you were discussing with @tallanvor and @Os Trigonum may in fact be more efficient in terms of protein production versus carbon emissions than smaller, locally sourced meat raised elsewhere in the world:

But that nuanced global perspective is missing from the conversation about meat production, Hererro says. When we think about the global environmental impacts, we tend to imagine industrial U.S. cattle or hog producers spewing emissions and waste into the environment.

But according to the PNAS paper, smaller producers in the developing world account for the most emissions from livestock, including 75 percent of emissions from cattle and other ruminants (like goats) and 56 percent from poultry and pigs. That's mainly because of the sheer number of animals — millions more than those raised in Europe and the U.S.

And when it's harder to feed animals, they also produce more emissions. For example, cattle scrounging for food in arid East Africa might release the equivalent of 1,000 pounds of carbon for every pound of protein they produce. Compare that with many parts of the U.S. and Europe, where a cow might generate about 10 pounds of carbon per pound of protein.

 

"You got that right. See, according to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy. Cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind if guy who wants to sit in a greasy spoon and think, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon, butter and buckets of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to. Okay, pal? I've seen the future, you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sittin' around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer Wiener". You wanna live on top, you gotta live Cocteau's way. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice: come down here, maybe starve to death."

 

America is about freedom. Eat what you want, but its only the vegans you see pushing their views on others and then trying to get
laws passed to force people into following their rules.

As an example you can't even buy fur in West Hollywood anymore?! Why is it that elite progressives always need to use the law
to control others lives.

There is a fascism in both parties as extremism is just dangerous and foolish whether right wing or left wing.

 

At least people here are honest.

Doesn't bode well for future prosperity, but that was never guaranteed.

 

I get annoyed by my cousin's constant spamming of vegan guilt trip memes on facebook but it's pretty obvious by now that people who are on a vegan diet are healthier than the average population.

 

That's not at all what Bill Gates said.

LOL. You realize they died a lot younger before they really had a chance to get heart disease, right?

 

Only on the D&D will someone claim their freedoms are being taken away... as they live in West f-ing Hollywood.

How about not being able to walk to school safely or be able to find a place nearby to vote in the ghetto?? Go to a place like that where it is predominantly African American or Hispanic and b**** about not being able to buy a fur coat in West Hollywood.

 

now you're talking

 

Given that the right still thinks that a snowstorm means climate change is a hoax, not sure what Gates is complaining about.

 

https://www.cato.org/multimedia/cato-daily-podcast/us-dietary-advice-takes-another-hit#CatoHealth