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B/R re-drafts 2002 draft class; picks Stoudemire over Yao at #1

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by alethios, Apr 6, 2020.

  1. alethios

    alethios Member

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    Nope, even with Yao's health issues, he was still miles above Stoudemire, and I believe, if we had a do-over, we would still pick Yao at #1.

    "If he didn't have those injuries, he probably would've been up there in the top five centers ever to play the game," Shaquille O'Neal said in 2011.

    Yao was surprisingly nimble for his size, and unlike some of his 7-foot contemporaries, he was an asset at the free-throw line (career 83.3 percent). His numbers never quite reached the level of generational greatness, but he did have a three-year run with 22-plus points, and only 15 other players matched his per-game marks of 9.2 rebounds and 1.9 blocks (minimum 15,000 minutes).

    Granted, some teams might prefer a decade-plus of goodness over what's essentially six seasons of near-greatness, but Yao's peak is too hard to ignore. The eight-time All-Star and five-time All-NBA honoree contributed 0.2 win shares per 48 minutes, and his next-closest draft classmate was Stoudemire with 0.169."


    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2885047-re-drafting-the-2002-nba-draft-class

    thoughts?
     
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    Carlos Boozer ate Yao’s lunch in the playoffs.
     
  3. TilmanFinancialWindfall

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    Still take Yao over Amare, despite all the injuries.
     
  4. napalm06

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    Yao was a legendary player and id still take him, especially for his greatness as a person and as an international hero.

    But he did get absolutely wrecked by Okur and Boozer flopping around. He was a match-up benefit and liability just simply due to his lack of mobility. It was an early indication of small ball effectiveness. And Stoudemire is viewed better than he was in retrospect because this is now the Era of smallball.

    However he was great in 2005 and 2009 when our roster started to become more than Yao, Tmac and beer league scrubs and its a tragedy we didn't get to see more of him in the right chemistry. With mobile two way forwards supplementing him, he was free to dominate.
     
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    daywalker02 Easter Egg Hunter - Tell me why? نحن عائلة
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    MDA would take Amar'e, I am sure now.
     
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    No thank you to Steve Francis, Cuttino and Amare. I'd still would have drafted Yao over Amare, imagine Yao ming keeping his slimmer building and adding less bulk while allowed to shoot 3 point shots. He'd be fantastic in the transition period where big men were more valued stretching the floor than inside the paint.

    Yao's ultimate downfall was his country's obligation to playing basketball all year around, there are some players like Kobe and LeBron who can play 70-80 games during the season and then play another 20 games to the finals every year.

    Yao had a significant injury and rushed to play for his country in the Beijing Olympics, which seemed similar to what Brandon Roy did when he rushed his knee injury rehab to participate in the playoffs. Both ended up playing faster short term but ended their careers way earlier than they were anticipated to.
     
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    Les takes the cash cow every time. The Chinese market made him richer than titles ever could. Les wins / won with Yao.
     
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    Mike D Antoni would pick Amare over Yao
    Rudy T wouldn’t
     
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    Les would take Yao if he owned a hockey team
    He only cares about Chinese money
     
  10. RKREBORN

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    Did Les sleep with your wife or something? You're painting the town red with the Les hate bro
    Though agreed he deserves it
     
  11. Air Langhi

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    People really overrate yao on this board. The guy was always hurt. The reason you have to appreciate a guy like harden is he always plays.
     
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  12. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    I’m only stating the obvious because we have idiots who don’t know anything about Rockets history
    Like when newbs thought we enjoyed having PIPPEN
     
  13. tinman

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    Rudy played Yao as a modern center in retrospect

    JVG and Ewing turned him into another Ewing
     
  14. tinman

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    Mike D Antoni did take Amare
     
  15. DrNuegebauer

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    What isn't fair about it?

    Sure, Yao played more all-star games, but being voted in by a billion people doesn't make one a better player! Before his injuries Amar'e had amazing numbers, and credit to him that he managed to come back and play as a contributor even after the injuries.
     
  16. Easy

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    I don't have the numbers. But I think Yao and McGrady played in less than 50% of their games together as Rockets together. That's pretty sad.
     
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    Whoever thinks Pippen was a good thing needs to be banned
     
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    Just watching the 22 win streak special...man. Yao was special in so many ways. He's my second favourite Rocket all time. Absolute joy watching him develop into his final form and the dude was too nice and loyal for his own good.
     
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    They both were destined to have injury problems. They were talking about Amare's knees recently and a guy that worked with the Suns said it wouldn't be wise to give him a second contract because he had knee ligaments that looked like construction paper and all he had was injury issues when he went to New York.

    I have always heard the docs knew Yao would have foot problems, but Les wanted that Chinese money.
     
  20. HROZ

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    I'd take Yao without injuries but with you got to go with Amare unfortunately.

    Amare was better early. When Yao started looking like an MVP candidate injuries really destroyed him

    Shaq was drafted in 92 - Yao in 02
    Shaq won his first 'ship on 00. In 2010 Yao wasn't really playing.

    They retired the same year.
     
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