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Astros Staff Re-Organization

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. tellitlikeitis

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    Dave Clark has been let go, and El Presidente, Dennis Martinez, only lasted 1 season as the bullpen coach.


    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Jeff Luhnow tells me 3B coach Trembley and bench coach Perez have been offered contracts, but the Astros are still waiting for answers.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/385149600497012736">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;I think everybody did a good job, but it’s just that we want to try a different mix moving forward,&quot; Luhnow said.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/385149675923197952">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    In other news, Doug Brocail is moving on up within the front office, as he was made a special assistant.


    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>In many ways, Doug Brocail got a promotion.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/385149997471125504">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;Doug’s done a tremendous job,&quot; Luhnow said. &quot; &quot;I had a long conversation with him.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/385150480348749824">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;We both feel the best role for him is to help me oversee the whole pitching top to bottom,&quot; Luhnow said.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/385150619498979328">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>JL: &quot;We got a couple No. 1s in our system. &quot;We got potentially another top pitcher coming in the draft.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/385150818778763264">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;Doug's somebody who can oversee the whole pitching top to bottom,&quot; Luhnow said.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/385150906750099456">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    This is Brocail's formal title.


    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Astros announce pitching coach Doug Brocial now special ass't to the GM &amp; Sr. pitching advisor.</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/statuses/385148024990613504">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    On the shopping list:


    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Luhnow says the Astros want a coach who has middle infield experience to help in the development of Villar and Altuve.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/385151088371834880">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Rest assured that manager Bo Porter wanted some of these changes. He kept quiet, but he wasn't happy with the staff.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/385151574281961472">October 1, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    Is more staff turnover something that this club needs?
     
  2. jim1961

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    Bo thinks so.

    I'm betting this has the most to do with things. He has had a year to look at the staff and apparently didn't like much of what he saw.
     
  3. J.R.

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    Staff change can't be a bad thing. I'm okay with this.
     
  4. jdh008

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    When I saw the tweet about wanting a coach with middle infield experience, Tim Bogar was the first name that came to mind.

    He's managing at the AA level right now and has been in conversations for jobs managing in the big leagues, so maybe he is looking to wait until he can break in at that level, but who knows?

    From the Astros standpoint, the biggest negative I see is that he has that 2012 Red Sox/Bobby Valentine stench on him and he got kind of wrapped up in all that drama about whether or not Valentine's coaches undermined him during the season.
     
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    Boger had the chance last year to join the staff but declined after Lunhow insisted in his contract that he not interview for managerial jobs. I don't understand why Lunhow would do that for the risk not a getting another quality coach on the staff.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer...ench-coach-over-rare-clause-houston-requested
     
  6. TimPoopura

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    Continuity? It doesn't seem unreasonable when, making a new hire, you insist that they stay for at least a couple years.
     
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    Geez. I guess I either forgot about that or never heard about it. Thanks for the information.
     
  8. msn

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    Soooooo... the Astros set a record for team strikeouts, and they retain their hitting coach?
     
  9. vince

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    Hitting coach isnt allowed to step into the batters box.

    Lets face it, the offense potential of last years club was closeer to a AA club.
     
  10. Joe Joe

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    Well, he's got a lot of experience dealing with guys with high strikeout numbers. That may be considered important considering Springer will be in the majors as long as Luhnow decides not to troll Nick any longer.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Former Orioles manager Dave Trembley has agreed to be Bo Porter's bench coach, the <a href="https://twitter.com/HoustonChron">@HoustonChron</a> has learned.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/385426223091834880">October 2, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The Astros will hire Brent Strom as the new pitching coach, the Chronicle has learned.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/387263971603906561">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Brent Strom is being hired away from St. Louis, where he served as the Cardinals' minor-league pitching coordinator.</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/387264576015704064">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    Strom, 64 (will be 65 next Monday), played in the Majors from 1972-77 with the Mets, Indians, and Padres. He was most recently a pitching instructor in the Cardinals system. This is his 2nd tour of duty as the Astros' pitching coach.

    He's an advocate of the long toss.

    And thinks there's too much coaching.


    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Brent Strom was Terry Collins' pitching coach with the Astros back in 1996.</p>&mdash; Cockroach (@cockroachHOU) <a href="https://twitter.com/cockroachHOU/statuses/387265465686319104">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    More old Cardinals. Yay!

    Actually, this is one that is definitely worth the shot. They continue to churn out pitching successes.
     
  14. Progs

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    Houston Astros slogan in 2014 just WIN.... No more number 1 picks... Make the games enjoyable again. Hopefully Springer becomes the Bagwell/Biggio/Berkman of this generation. At 24 he should be ready to make a big impact in 2014. Make Cosart the Ace until Rodon and Appel come along with Correa in 2015.

    Offensive core can be Springer
    Correa
    Castro

    Pitching core can be Rodon
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    Agreed. Why wouldn't I? None of us have the foggiest clue what these guys do on a day-to-day basis. It's all just internet masturbation.
     
  16. tellitlikeitis

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    Backgrounds in next post.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Astros&amp;src=hash">#Astros</a> hire Pat Listach as 1B coach, Craig Bjornson as bullpen coach, Dave Trembley as bench coach, Eduardo Perez as 3B coach.</p>&mdash; Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) <a href="https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/statuses/392738295328669696">October 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Astros&amp;src=hash">#Astros</a> have named their 2014 coaching staff, joining MGR Bo Porter will be Dave Trembley (bench), Brent Strom (pitching)...</p>&mdash; Houston Astros (@astros) <a href="https://twitter.com/astros/statuses/392739580270485504">October 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>...John Mallee (hitting), Eduardo Perez (3rd base), Pat Listach (1st base), Craig Bjornson (bullpen) &amp; Ralph Dickenson (asst. hitting).</p>&mdash; Houston Astros (@astros) <a href="https://twitter.com/astros/statuses/392740117518884864">October 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    Listach, 46, was the 1992 AL Rookie of the Year with the Brewers. He spent 5 seasons there and closed out his career with 52 games in Houston in the 1997 season. His CV as a coach includes 3 seasons as a manager (2 seasons at AA, 1 at AAA) in the Cubs system from 2006-08. Listach was named the Pacific Coast League Manager of the Year with Iowa in 2008. He served as the Nationals' 3rd base coach in 2009 and was the Cubs' bench coach in the 2010 and 2011 seasons. He shifted over to 3rd in 2012, then spent the 2013 season as the minor league infield coordinator in the Dodgers organization.


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    Bjornson was the Astros' bullpen coach in 2012.


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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Marlins&amp;src=hash">#Marlins</a> lose minor league outfield &amp; base running coordinator Tarrik Brock to Houston <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Astros&amp;src=hash">#Astros</a>. Will coach first for them.</p>&mdash; Juan C. Rodriguez (@JCRMarlinsbeat) <a href="https://twitter.com/JCRMarlinsbeat/statuses/420731567666122752">January 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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