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Astros agree to deal with Tony Sipp

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rocketpower2, Dec 10, 2015.

  1. rocketpower2

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    Berman breaking all the news!

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Free agent reliever Tony Sipp is returning to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Astros?src=hash">#Astros</a>.His deal will be done pending completion of his physical according to MLB sources</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/674969879527604228">December 10, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  2. cangrejero51

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    Well, like I said this guy was a must for us. Now let's go after Kazmir.
     
  3. Joe Joe

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    Sweet! Astros got a closer and a lefty that can be both setup and lefty specialist! Astros just need to get Kazmir and then maybe get greedy and trade for McGee and Boxberger.
     
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    Awesome news. Really like Sipp.
     
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    Been a really good offseason so far. Very excited about next year.
     
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    Beast mode bullpen, should def be division winners and reclaim our rightful place above the Royals
     
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    What's the obsession with Kazmir? What's the logic in wanting him back (specially at, what I would assume, a pretty high price point)?
     
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    Great news. Between Giles, Sipp, and Gregerson, the Astros have a high quality bullpen locked up for the next 2-3 years.
     
  9. Nick

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    Are we just going to ignore the majority of the last 2 years of excellence from him?

    I think with better managing of his innings, along with the juice of pitching for a contender year-round, he could still be very valuable. He's still a lefty with command/stuff and K ability.

    Astros have money to spend... and you can't have enough starting pitching.
     
  10. sealclubber1016

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    Sipp and Greg were basically the only reliable guys in the playoffs. Glad to have him back in the fold, that's one less thing to worry about.
     
  11. rezdawg

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    Check his post-all star splits over the last 2 years.
     
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    Good stuff. He was very reliable.
     
  13. sealclubber1016

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    We all know about that, 2 straight years he has collapsed after about 20 starts. So you don't let him get more than 20 or so starts. 20 starts of excellence has value.
     
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    Fortunately wins in the first half are worth has much as wins in the 2nd half.
     
  15. rocketpower2

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    Guessing 3 years, $17 million.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tony Sipp has an agreement with the Astros on a three year deal. Big, important move.</p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/674974070404984833">December 10, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  16. rezdawg

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    Sure, unfortunately, the playoffs happen AFTER the 2nd half.

    If we're paying a guy 15 million dollar per year, I shouldnt have to expect a decline in performance as the year wears on.

    Do we put a 5 IP limit on him to preserve him? Kazmir was a huge part of why the Astros almost choked getting into the playoffs.
     
  17. rocketpower2

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    No I think you skip starts. Feldman is capable of putting together a good outing so maybe once out of every three cycles you skip Kazmir?
     
  18. Nick

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    You do have to get to the playoffs first though, before you start worrying about how a pitcher will be performing in those games.

    Had the Astros had Kazmir for his excellent first-half, there's a high probability they would have built a decent division lead and eventually got above 14 games over .500 (their high water mark last year), and wouldn't have had to claw/scratch their way to the dance.

    Additionally, given what we saw from McHugh in game 5, and what the Royals did to the Mets elite starters... Kazmir's game 2 wasn't a terrible start by any means.
     
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    Not bad.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: Sipp with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Astros?src=hash">#Astros</a> is three years, $18M.</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/674977854426324992">December 10, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  20. sealclubber1016

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    In this market that's a f**king bargain.
     
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