Astros acquiring Gerrit Cole?

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  1. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Contributing Member

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    UPDATE 11:15 AM 1/10:



    Update 2:

     
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    Wait, I thought they would not settle for anything less than Altuve or Correa as centerpieces.
     
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    It definitely is thread-worthy, in my opinion. I was coming to the board to start it and didn't see it.

    Very interesting ... I'm curious to see what it will end up costing.
     
  4. juicystream

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    Then we won't be trading for Cole.

    2 years of control, coming off 2 not so impressive seasons, his value isn't as high as they want. Look at what the A's got for 2.5 years of Gray for approximate value.
     
  5. texans1095

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    Wouldn't mind a package centered around Fisher. However, a package centered around Tucker or Whitley would be a different story. Can't imagine those guys would be involved in a trade for anyone other than a bonafide ace. Cole is a really solid #2/3 but he's nowhere near a bonafide ace.
     
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    How good is Cole at this point? With the inability to spend with the big boys I don’t think I’m willing to part with Tucker or Whitley for him.
     
  7. tellitlikeitis

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    The Astros most likely aren't including Tucker or Whitley in any potential deals for Cole. That being said, I think they'd be more inclined to part with Tucker first.

    Whitley is definitely the guy that everyone wants in a potential blockbuster... and the guy they're not getting.
     
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    NEXT! Cole has two yrs left on his contract so the whole point of adding a high-end starter as insurance for Keuchel, Morton & Verlander who become free agents over the next two years becomes lost.

    Darvish or Arrieta! Keep Whitley as a back of the rotation starter for 2019.
    Keep Tucker as the 2019 left fielder or at worst a 425k equivalent to replace Reddick when he hits free agency in 2-3 years.

    2019- Darvish or Arrieta/Verlander/ McCullers/Keuchel or Morton/Whitley
     
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    Nice....chatter starting to heat up since Jim Crane's comments.
     
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    Tucker or Whitley are too much IMO for a guy that has been pretty average the last 2 seasons, and only has 2 years of team control left.
     
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    Can you move the other posts related to this from the Offseason thread?

    Martes + Fisher + Davis

    That is probably as aggressive an offer as I'd give up.
     
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    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Tucker was made available. Whitley, on the other hand, is likely completely off-limits.
     
  13. Nick

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    Pretty sure every possible trade involving the Astros will be "leaked" by opposing teams looking for Tucker/Whitley.

    If they stood pat with their untouchable 4 at this year's trade deadline... you best be assured they're standing pat with the same untouchables, unless they're getting a crack at a sure-fire ace with many years of club control.
     
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    That's too rich for my blood. Losing the next 5 or 6 years of Martes isn't worth an average SP of Cole. I'd be ok with the centerpiece being Derek Fisher, not much more for only 2 years of Cole. Fisher would be a great replacement in the OF after they trade McCutchen.
     
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    Who were the other 2 untouchables?
     
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    The hardest part of losing Martes for me is that right now he is exactly what a team needs with the frequency of injury in the starting rotation. A guy we can shuffle into the rotation and possibly be as good or better than the guy he is replacing.
     
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    Presumably Martes and Perez... and Perez was finally dealt post trade deadline for Verlander.
     
  18. Nick

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    I'd be surprised... unless there's something we don't know about that is limiting Tucker's upside.

    He was a higher pick, has conquered each level with a slightly less Correa-like pace, and the Astros do need a corner OF in the upcoming years.

    I really would rather they trade neither of them... unless they get a guy that's just too highly coveted and they need to make the best possible offer.
     
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    The interesting thing to me is that there is a line in the sand somewhere. A point by which the player to get in question is a big enough prize to warrant considering Tucker/Whitley in a trade. We just dont know where that is or what the pecking order of priorities/player attributes looks like in the mind(s) of the brass. Maybe they even have a list of players that qualify.

    One would think anything involving Whitley would mandate a pitcher in return.
     
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    Would you guys be down for a Fisher + Tucker +Martes for Cole and McCutchen? No idea on McCutchens contract. Just an Idea.
     
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